LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Thursday, October 16, 2025


The House met at 1:30 p.m.

The Speaker: Good afternoon, everyone. Please be seated.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

The Speaker: Intro­duction of bills? Com­mit­tee reports?

Tabling of Reports

Hon. Mike Moyes (Minister of Environment and Climate Change): Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm pleased to table the following annual reports for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025, for Efficiency Manitoba, with the sup­ple­mental report for '24‑25 and the Clean Environ­ment Com­mis­sion Annual Report for the year 2024‑2025.

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The Speaker: Min­is­terial statements?

Members' Statements

Marcia Pavao

Hon. Mintu Sandhu (Minister of Public Service Delivery): I rise today to recognize one of my con­stituents, Marcia Pavao, a survivor of lump node cancer and breast cancer.

      Her journey began last November when she found a lump. Shortly after, her husband found another under her arm. From that moment, Marcia's life changed forever.

      Urgent scans, bloodwork, biopsy confirmed what no one wants to hear. Marcia would have to fight for her life through chemotherapy, surgery and radiation.

      Marcia's journey was long and difficult. Phase 1 was eight rounds of chemotherapy. It wasn't easy but Marcia stayed strong. She believed in herself and her fight.

      Phase 2 was surgery, the most painful part: physically and emotionally. But with the love and support around her, Marcia kept going.

      Phase 3 was radiation, which was just complete–which just completed last month. On her last day of the treatment, Marcia rang the bell. I can only imagine that it was a day full of tears of joy, celebration and relief.

      Two weeks ago, on October 3, Marcia received the words she fought hard to hear. She is cancer‑free. Her fight is not completely over. For the next five years, Marcia will continue with hormone therapy to prevent her cancer from returning. But today, she can proudly call herself a survivor.

      Marcia reminds us about the importance of aware­ness, com­mu­nity and believing in herself. I ask my colleagues to join me in recog­nizing Marcia Pavao, the survivor, an advocate and ultimately an inspiration to all of us.

      Honourable Speaker, I would like the names of my guests to be entered into the Hansard.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Lisete Costa, Erika Duguay, Allan Pavao, Carter Pavao, Marcia Pavao, Kelly Roque, Lucia Roque.

Joseph Fourre

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): Hon­our­able Speaker, his past summer, I had the privilege of meeting someone who has turned unimaginable loss into purpose and hope, Mr. Joseph Fourre. Joseph is the founder of the Singing Red Bear Foundation and the creator of the no thanks, I'm good campaign.

      Joseph's journey is one of courage and resilience. He celebrates six years of sobriety and shares a mes­sage of life, hope and healing with others every single day. But this mission comes from a place of deep pain. In April 2023, Joseph lost his son, Harlan, to fentanyl poisoning; a tragedy that no parent should ever have to endure.

      Harlan wasn't an addict or a drug user. The no thanks, I'm good campaign was borne out of Harlan's own words, as this was something he said when offered drugs. However, on a night of his passing, he was convinced by new co‑workers to try a recreational drug that he didn't know was laced with fentanyl. It cost him his life.

      Today, through the Singing Red Bear Foundation, Joseph works to motivate, inspire, encourage others to live drug-free, reminding us that education and aware­ness saves lives. He speaks to youth, families and communities about the dangers of fentanyl, a substance so deadly that even a trace amount can take a life.

      Joseph's advocacy is deeply personal and it's deep­ly powerful. His story is helping change lives right here in Manitoba.

      I want to close today by honouring Joseph and remembering Harlan, whose words mean this: No thanks, I'm good.

      Thank you, Honourable Speaker.

An Honourable Member: Point of order.

Point of Order

The Speaker: The hon­our­able First Minister, on a point of order.

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Of course, on behalf of the gov­ern­ment of Manitoba, I want to offer our sincere thanks to every­thing that's been brought to the table today by Marcia and Joseph.

      I did want to canvass the House if there's leave to revert to intro­duction of bills.

The Speaker: I thank the hon­our­able First Minister. It's not a point of order.

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The Speaker: Is there leave of the House to return to intro­duction of bills? [Agreed]

Introduction of Bills

Bill 50–The Constitutional Questions Amendment Act

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): I move, seconded by the Minister of Edu­ca­tion, that Bill 50, The Con­sti­tu­tional Questions Amend­ment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les questions constitutionnelles, be now read a first time.

Motion presented.

Mr. Kinew: Our gov­ern­ment will never use the notwithstanding clause, but this bill, Bill 50, will ensure that any future gov­ern­ment in Manitoba that wants to use a notwithstanding clause will have to refer that bill immediately to the courts in this pro­vince, so that they can declare if those actions would otherwise violate people's rights–if not for the use of section 33.

      We're intro­ducing this bill at a time in our country where other gov­ern­ments are using the notwithstanding clause to target religious people, to target LGBTQ2S+ people, to target vul­ner­able minorities. That's not who we are as Manitobans; that's not who we are as Canadians. Bill 50 will ensure that we always remain the true north strong and, most of all, free.

The Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

      The motion is accordingly passed.

Members' Statements

(Continued)

The Speaker: The hon­our­able–back to members' statements.

Mr. Derek Johnson (Official Opposition House Leader): I'm just seeking leave, Hon­our­able Speaker, for a moment of silence for Joseph's son, Harlan Fourre.

The Speaker: Is there leave for a moment of silence? [Agreed]

A moment of silence was observed.

The Speaker: We will now return to members' statements.

Summer in the City Recreation Camps

Hon. Malaya Marcelino (Minister of Labour and Immigration): Honourable Speaker, this past summer, our community was able to respond to youth crime being done by children during summer months.

      Reports and video footage were circulating of kids as young as nine years old out at 4:30 in the morning setting fires, committing property damage and violence.

      A community youth leader described it like this: If a child is out at 4:30 in the morning, that means it's safer outside than it is at home.

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      Together, inner‑city school principals and super­intendents, Rossbrook House, Boys and Girls Club, Evermore, children and youth themselves came up with a plan to respond to unsafe behaviour in the summertime.

      Schoolkids were surveyed and they said they wanted a nice place to hang out with their friends, a space to do cultural and art activities and lots and lots of sports.

      So together we came up with free summer day camps held in three locations in the Weston com­munity and the Daniel McIntyre area and we called it Summer in the City. The goal was simple: to offer free, positive activities for youth from grades 5 to 9.

      And these free day camps were recreation‑based, provided hot delicious meals and ran until past 8 p.m. at night. Kids took part in leadership activities led by local high school and university students, and together they created a camp contract, setting values of respect, teamwork and accountability, and they lived those values every day of the six‑week camp. Camp staffers spoke about shy campers finding their voice and returning each day, by walking or by bus, eager to lead.

      The camps were run by an organization called One Voice One Team, and I'm grateful to them for the connection they fostered with Notre Dame youth and their ability to strengthen our sense of community. And I request members to acknowledge members of One Voice One Team present today with us: Jermaine Frazer, Victoria Gonzalez, Priskalou Khalon Merriman, Kaleigh Solinski and Tiana Desmarais.

      And I want to thank all parents, volunteers, Winnipeg School Division leaders and especially our youth participants for this inaugural run of Summer in the City.

Linden Woods Fall Classic

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Honourable Speaker, I rise today to celebrate a truly special community event in Fort Whyte: the Linden Woods Fall Classic, which took place on Sunday, October 5. A torrential downpour of rain and speed of–tornado speeds could not keep runners away.

      The fall classic has been a beloved tradition since 2004, created by an arm's‑length committee of the École Van Walleghem School parent council. What began as a simple fundraising goal to build the play structure on school grounds has grown into something much greater.

      Over the years, the event has helped fund play­ground improvements, walking and running paths, shade structures and has contributed over $80,000 to the Pembina Trails breakfast program. In total, the classic has raised over $190,000 for school and community projects, a testament to what a dedicated group of volunteers can achieve. This year marks the 18th year of the celebration.

      This year, I had the pleasure of volunteering at one of the water stations, handing out water while there was a torrential rainstorm, when I got to cheer on runners of all ages as they braved the rain to compete their run.

      The event featured something for everyone, including the Mighty Mile for younger runners, a 5K and a 10K race. The Linden Woods classic is proudly recognized by the Manitoba Runners' Association, with the 10K as part of the MRA classic series and the 5K and the Mighty Mile included in the MRA youth series.

      Events like this in Linden Woods and Fort Whyte, the Linden Woods Fall Classic, are all about com­munity. They're about bringing families and neigh­bours together to showcase the power of volunteerism.

      I want to congratulate all of the organizers, volun­teers and participants for their incredible efforts. And like I promised you at the event, I will do my best to compete in the Mighty Mile next year.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Summer Activities in Transcona Constituency

MLA Shannon Corbett (Transcona): I rise today to celebrate my first summer as the MLA of Transcona. I have to say, there's no better place to spend the season than in my community. From festivals to movies in the square to the Transcona Aquatic Park, every corner of Transcona offers something to see, do and celebrate.

      This summer, the Transcona Museum gave resi­dents the chance to see our community in a whole new light with their–through their historic walking tours. It was such a great way to explore the streets we walk every day, to discover some hidden art and hear those little bits of the local legend that makes Transcona what it is.

      Of course, no Transcona summer would be com­plete without the Hi Neighbour Festival. Each year, families, neighbours and local businesses come together for a weekend full of fun. The festival offers free Saturday and–Friday and Saturday night concerts, kids' entertainment, food vendors and community booths. It truly is the heartbeat of summer in Transcona.

      Another high­light this year was the Transcona BIZ markets on Thursday. This was a wonderful oppor­tun­ity for 21 vendors to showcase their talents. The Transcona BIZ intro­duced farm–sorry, the Transcona BIZ intro­duced market features as a way for com­mu­nity members to connect with local groups and clubs. These included the Transcona Trail Trekkers, Mad Science, a bike safety demo, a Transcona Garden Club and the Transcona Optimist Club.

      And speaking of community, I want to recognize L'Arche Winnipeg, who fill Transcona with warmth and creativity all year round. Their picnic, art shows and music nights at L'Arche Tova Café are always a standout.

      This summer once again showed that Transcona truly has it all. Whether you're exploring our murals, browsing at the market, dancing at Hi Neighbour or sharing coffee and music with friends at L'Arche, there's simply no better place to be. I am so grateful that I get to represent this amazing com­mu­nity and I encourage all Manitobans to plan their next staycation in Transcona, and invite my colleagues to join me in recognizing the people who made all these cele­brations and events possible.

Mr. Derek Johnson (Official Opposition House Leader): On House busi­ness.

House Business

The Speaker: On House busi­ness, the hon­our­able Op­posi­tion House Leader.

Mr. Johnson: Hon­our­able Speaker, could you please canvass the House to see if there is leave to refer Bill 203, The Earlier Screening for Breast Cancer Act, to the previously announced Standing Com­mit­tee on Social and Economic Dev­elop­ment meeting tonight on October 16, 2025, at 6 p.m.

      Thank you. [interjection]

The Speaker: Order, please.

      Is there leave to refer Bill 203, The Earlier Screening for Breast Cancer Act, to the previously announced Standing Com­mit­tee on Social and Economic Dev­elop­ment meeting tonight, October 16, 2025, at 6 p.m. Is there leave?

Some Honourable Members: Agreed.

Some Honourable Members: No.

The Speaker: I hear a no. Leave has been denied.

      Order.

      Question period. Oral questions.

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: Prior to oral questions, we have seated in the public gallery, from Garden City Collegiate, 25 grade 9 students under the direction of Lindsey Torio. The group is located in the con­stit­uency of the hon­our­able member for McPhillips (MLA Devgan). We welcome you here today.

      I'd also like to draw members' attention to the Speaker's Gallery and I would like to intro­duce Shay Jolicoeur, the very first Indigenous tour officer with the Legis­lative Assembly Visitor Tour Program. This position was created earlier this year and Shay began her duties in July.

Shay is a Métis woman from St. Laurent, Manitoba, and in this role she will be developing pro­gram­ming focused on Indigenous Truth and Recon­ciliation and centering Indigenous perspectives. Shay also acts as the lead for marketing and com­muni­cations for the Visitor Tour Program and I'd ask all members to join me in welcoming Shay to her new role at the Assembly.

Oral Questions

Manitoba's Trade Repre­sen­tative in Washington


Inquiry into Measurable
Out­comes to Warrant Salary

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Hon­our­able Speaker, I and every other Manitoban are in shock to hear how much this Premier is paying his friend, former reporter and trade com­mis­sioner to the USA: nearly $400,000 a year, roughly the same amount of money the Prime Minister of Canada is making and the combined salary of this Premier and Mayor of Winnipeg.

      Richard Madan is making up nearly eight times the average of Manitoban makes in their salary. And to quote from his own words, have coffee with staffers and American legislatures, end quote.

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      Not one trade deal in five months, not one memorandum of under­standing with this trade com­mis­sioner and not one dollar invested in Manitoba.

      Will the Premier today point to a single trade deal that justifies paying his friend $400,000 a year?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Richard Madan's a great guy. He's got the smarts–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: –he's got the looks; he's got the con­nections to make the case for Manitoba in Washington, DC.

      When we announced this position, we said that we needed somebody who was a little bit Trumpy, and Mr. Madan is the right guy to operate in the Trump 2.0 environ­ment.

      When we're talking about trade deals, there's one trade deal that matters to us as Manitobans and Canadians: that's CUSMA. CUSMA is heading into review in 2026. Mr. Madan is spear­heading our effort to make connections at the state level, at the congressional level, at the senate level, and he will be a brilliant representative to the Trump administration.

      Of course, setting up shop in the embassy for Canada ensures that he has the right sort of access across the board to work hard for you.

      We've been standing up to Donald Trump, stand­ing up for Canada. We'll never bow down to Trump, like the members opposite.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: This is not a serious Premier. That was not a serious answer. He talks about hiring a guy because he's got the looks and he looks like Donald Trump, and that justifies paying his friend $400,000.

      Manitobans are making the tough decisions on groceries and putting gas in their car, and he says he hired a guy because he's got the looks.

      This is embar­rass­ing; this is pathetic, and the Premier must apologize for that.

      Richard Madan has zero ex­per­ience in trade or contract negotiations. Ontario, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Quebec are all paying far less for their trade offices. And Richard Madan, with a $400,000 salary, has brought in how many dollars to Manitoba? Zero.

      Will the Premier stand up today and justify to Manitobans that are struggling to put food on their table, put gas in their car and pay their bills how he can pay his friend $400,000 for zero dollars of invest­ments in Manitoba?

Mr. Kinew: In addition to having the smarts, in addition to having the look, in addition to having the connections right across Trump world 2.0, Mr. Madan also has a very im­por­tant quality right now: he is a storyteller. He's remark­ably well positioned–

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: –to be able to tell the Manitoba story.

      We have what the world needs and we have what America needs: agri­cul­ture, energy, raw materials, critical minerals and, most of all, a talented, hard‑working people who are going to power this economy into an AI-enabled future.

      You know who's not well positioned to tell the Manitoba story? The members opposite. They cut and closed our presence in Washington, DC. They thanked Donald Trump. They chose a leader for their party, direct quote to Donald Trump on the tariffs: Thank you. I would say thank you. End quote.

      We'll never bow down to Donald Trump. We're proud to have Richard Madan working for you.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: Again, the Premier resorts to jokes. Now he says storytelling along with good looks justifies a $400,000 salary for his friend, when his friend has brought zero dollars of invest­ments to Manitoba.

      When Manitobans are struggling with costs of living right now, this Premier says he hired someone because of his looks and his storytelling. The Premier cannot name one single accomplishment for his trade buddy in Washington and nothing that justifies a $400,000 salary.

      Alberta is paying less; Ontario is paying less; Quebec is paying less, and they're all bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars. Saskatchewan's premier went to Indonesia and signed a billion-dollar contract with them. This Premier is sitting on his hands, trying to justify paying his friend $400,000.

      So I'll ask him again: What is his best friend in Washington, DC doing to justify $400,000 salary?

Mr. Kinew: What did the member opposite do with the 500 grand he got from Heather Stefanson? It's 100 grand more. Any deals brought for Manitoba busi­­nesses during the depths of the COVID recession? No, none. Any new increased revenue, topline or otherwise, to busi­nesses? No, none. Which of his busi­nesses are still in operation today? Well, maybe he's supporting the industry of the lawyers defending him in small claims court and the court of Queen's bench, but other than that, the member doesn't have a leg to stand on.

      When I'm talking about storytelling, I'm talking about being able to pierce the veil surrounding President Trump so that he understands that trade with Manitoba and trade with Canada is good for the US. That is how we stand up for jobs, that is how we stand up for our economy. On the other side, all they know how to do to Mr. Trump is to avert eye contact and say, thank you, sir.

      We'll never bow down. We are the true north strong and free, and we are proud to have talented, valuable people–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a new question.

MRI Wait Times
Request for Plan to Address

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): That is a des­per­ate Premier looking for an answer. Attacks, jokes. Premier can attack me all he wants. It's not about me; it's about Manitobans. We are trying–putting Manitobans–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Khan: –first. Premier has no answers for why he's paying his friend $400,000. Failures upon failures upon more failures by this Premier and NDP gov­ern­ment.

      As the Minister of Families (MLA Fontaine) likes to say, and I quote: When they show you who they are, believe them. End quote. Just like you saw today, he'll laugh, he'll attack and he'll ridicule, but he won't answer any questions.

      So I'm going to ask him a really simple question. This diag­nos­tic backlog is over 30,000 people here in Manitoba. It's grown 9,000 people under the NDP.

      What is the Premier doing to address the 30,000 people waiting in Manitoba for an MRI?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Health care is our top priority. So what we're doing on tests and diagnostics is we're running more tests, more scans, more diagnostics than had ever been done before in the history of Manitoba. It's all thanks to our great Health Minister.

      Now, when it comes to good news in health care–of course, the members opposite just wallow and doom and gloom, still licking their wounds from the last election. We're here talking about Manitoba's great, bright future. Today I'm proud to share with the House of that target in this fiscal year, March to March, to add 800 surgeries in Selkirk–well, we've done 402.

      Lots done, more to do, much to risk if we ever go back to the other side.

The Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question.

Manitoba Jobs Agreement
Union and Non-Unionized Workers

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): If health care was so im­por­tant for this Premier, why is the Manitoba Nurses Union giving his failed Health Minister a D‑? Goes to show you how serious this Premier is taking health. Another failure.

      Let's talk about more failures by this NDP gov­ern­ment: math. Math gets a failing grade from any teacher in Manitoba except the ones on the gov­ern­ment benches. The Premier's math was so bad that he tried to say he added more jobs, but in reality, there was a net loss of 1,300 jobs between August and September. Another failure.

      Manitoba's economy is failing. Grocery prices are rising, another failure by this Premier. The Premier is picking winners and losers, another failure by this Premier. This Premier is only accomplishing one thing: dividing Manitobans.

      Will the Premier today commit to reversing his Manitoba jobs agree­ment where he divides Manitobans based on union and non‑working–non‑union status?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): You know, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion's all worked up. He's got divisions in his head and he doesn't know where to strike. We heard 20 different subjects in 10 seconds of that question.

      And why is he so shook, Hon­our­able Speaker? Well, you look at that list of com­mit­tee speakers tonight, who's there after the Patrick Allards and other interesting types of the world?

      Well, there it is. The man who got more votes in the PC leadership contest this year: Wally Daudrich. Nobody knows whether our friend Wallay [phonetic] is here to rub it in the face of the member opposite; is he here to talk about polar bears; maybe he's going to do what every single member of the PC Party did when it comes to the bill and say that the NDP is doing a good job and this legis­lation should pass through the House.

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      We know that there will certainly be some spicy moments when Wally comes to town. I wonder if the member opposite can share what they have in store for us tonight.

The Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Premier and Cabinet Ministers
Accountability Inquiry

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Since the Premier is having a hard time keeping track of where we're going, the theme is failures by his NDP gov­ern­ment. Failures in health, failures in crime, failures in economy and now, failures when it comes to accountability.

      The theme sets itself. It's not a privilege to do this job, it's a right. Who said that? Another clear failure by this Premier. He doesn't understand the privilege and honour it is to be here. He thinks it's a right for his minister. He thinks by us asking questions is racist or violence, when all we're doing is asking questions. Another failure by this Premier.

      So, will the Premier stand up today and apologize for calling Manitobans goofballs? Will he take any sort of accountability for his actions or for that of his failed Minister of Families (MLA Fontaine)?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Well, a question about failure. I think the biggest failure we all know is the member's failure to get more votes than Wally in the PC leadership contest. But when it comes to the mem­bers that I'm surrounded by who make up your prov­incial Cabinet, I've got to say, they're delivering on our promises to you.

      We promised to cut the gas tax: we delivered, and brought down inflation. We promised to staff up health care: 3,400 new front-line staff in the health-care system. We promised to freeze hydro rates: check mark next to that one as well.

      And, of course, we didn't promise this. We didn't promise this, to search the landfill, but we did, and we brought home Morgan and Marcedes. Why did we have to make that commit­ment in the election campaign? [interjection]

       Sorry, was there some­thing on the other side that a member wanted to say about the landfill search?

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Youth Un­em­ploy­ment Rate
Increase Concerns

Mrs. Lauren Stone (Midland): Hon­our­able Speaker, the numbers are out and this NDP gov­ern­ment is failing on job creation. Economic growth is the worst in Canada, the NDP lost over 5,000 jobs in the month of August and now youth un­em­ploy­ment has risen to over 12 per cent.

      Can the minister explain why youth em­ploy­ment is up 3 per cent since 2023?

Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): Hon­our­able Speaker, we're proud to have added 5,300 jobs in the last month. That's progress.

      Manitobans have a gov­ern­ment that's focused on building a strong economy and we're responding to the moment and the economic challenges that surround us.

      Of course, in our last budget we were really proud to bring forward a Trump-proof budget that's seeing us invest $3.7 billion in building one Manitoba. That's–[interjection]

       We're proud to be doing the work that didn't happen for years under the members opposite. We're building 11 schools, three personal-care homes, new energy infra­structure, NUPIC. We're getting the job done of ensuring we're investing to create jobs in Manitoba and move our economy forward–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable member for Midland, on a supple­mentary question.

Mrs. Stone: Hon­our­able Speaker, numbers don't lie, and the reality is, is this NDP gov­ern­ment is operating at a net loss of job creation over the past three months. Manitoba youth and students are wanting to work, but this NDP gov­ern­ment has failed them with two years of rising youth un­em­ploy­ment.

      Under the NDP, economy is trending downward with the lowest growth rate in Canada. This is hurting young people in Manitoba that just want to get their first job. How can this government defend the rise in youth un­em­ploy­ment that is happening under their watch?

MLA Sala: That's not true, Hon­our­able Speaker. Youth unemployment is down and we've created 17,000 jobs in two years. That's progress. You know, I'm so proud to be part of this agree­ment to work with our in­cred­ible Minister for Busi­ness, Mining, jobs and Job Creation.

      We've done amazing work bringing forward recently our economic dev­elop­ment strategy. We're going to see a new $50-million busi­ness loan program. We're enhancing invest­ment tax credits to ease costs for busi­nesses. And, of course, we're ensuring young Manitobans have a clear path to good jobs.

      And, of course, beyond that, we're investing in things that the members opposite cut, like invest­ing in ensuring we have a repre­sen­tative in Washington to make sure Manitoba's voice is there to fight for jobs and more prosperity–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

MLA Sala: –in our province. Members opposite cut. We're moving Manitoba forward.

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Midland, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mrs. Stone: Hon­our­able Speaker, let's go through some of those figures. Un­em­ploy­ment has risen to 6.2 per cent and youth un­em­ploy­ment is now 12.5 per cent. The minister's own labour force report says they lost 2,600 jobs–youth jobs–since last year. That's a 19 per cent increase in youth un­em­ploy­ment after just two years of this NDP government.

      Will this minister admit that he has failed Manitoba's youth?

MLA Sala: Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm going to borrow a term from my friend, the Minister for Munici­pal and Northern Relations, and remind members opposite that Manitobans are tired of a Chicken Little op­posi­tion here in the Legislature.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, the work continues. We're doing really im­por­tant work in ensuring that Manitoban busi­nesses can move their goods to market, including through invest­ments in increasing access to trade.

      We've made invest­ments in Churchill. The members opposite might have heard recently that the federal gov­ern­ment is going to be helping us to ensure that Churchill is a place where Manitoban goods can move to the world. We're also investing, of course, in the railway that gets those goods to Churchill.

      We're investing in CentrePort, trade-supporting infra­structure. We know the work that needs to be done after years of disinvestment from the members opposite.

      This gov­ern­ment, this team, is going to build the strongest economy in Canada and–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Manitoba Jobs Agreement
Dues for Non-Unionized Workers

Mr. Josh Guenter (Borderland): This so-called Manitoba jobs agree­ment brought forward by the NDP is nothing more than political payback by the NDP to their union boss friends who bail them out every time they need help, and they are using other people's money to do it.

      Under the Manitoba jobs agree­ment, every worker–every Manitoba worker–will have to pay union dues whether they choose to be unionized or not.

      Can the minister explain why non-unionized workers should have to pay dues when they chose not to be unionized?

Hon. Mintu Sandhu (Minister of Public Service Delivery): I want to thank the member for that question.

      When workers do well, Manitoba does well. That's why we signed our first Manitoba jobs agree­ment with the Manitoba Building Trades to create good jobs by building four new schools.

      This is the first step in the new policy to support local, deliver on major projects–infra­structure pro­jects. This is an agree­ment to ensure contractors prioritize Manitoba workers and set standards for raises, benefits and working con­di­tions.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Borderland, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Guenter: Half of that NDP gov­ern­ment spent their lives in special interest groups before getting into politics. They don't know anything about the realities of working-class Manitobans.

      Eighty per cent of Manitoba's construction work­force is made up of open-shop, non-unionized em­ployees. These are real working people, blue collar providers who have bills to pay and families to feed. These are the people who build our schools, hospitals and highways.

      Can the minister tell us why they're discriminating against Manitobans who choose not to join a union?

MLA Sandhu: I want to remind the member–and hopefully he can apologize in the next of his questions–half of our caucus is teachers on this side of the House.

      But the real question is–[interjection]–Hon­our­able Speaker, the real question is their premier–the previous premier–got caught putting his hand into the cookie jar after they lost the election. What they have done before that, that's the real question. So did they take every­thing out of–the cookies in the cookie jar?

      So, again, they are corruption on the other side, every single of them.

* (14:10)

      Thank you.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Borderland, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Guenter: Hon­our­able Speaker, what a nonsense answer.

      But I'll tell you what: this PC team, this Progressive Conservative team, will never apologize for standing up for working-class Manitobans. Under this NDP gov­ern­ment, crime is out of control; health care is worse; the economy is worse; Manitoba's–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Guenter: –GDP growth is dead last in the entire country. And they're now cutting 80 per cent of Manitoba's open-shop contractors and construction workers out of building our schools, hospitals and highways. And they did this without any con­sul­ta­tion with any of the affected industry stake­holders.

      One question, Hon­our­able Speaker: How do they sleep at night?

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

The Speaker: Order. Order.

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): You know, it's a strange reality inhabited by the members across the way, when they stand up for very mid, mid answers. And, of course, they neglect the great things that are hap­pening across the province because of you. The great people in Manitoba have led to 3,400 new front-line health-care staff, new emergency rooms reopening, a cut to the gas tax to put more money in your pocket.

      What have the PCs brought to the table–including the member for Borderland–over the past two years? A premier in the form of Heather Stefanson, the first ever to be fined. A caucus member in the back row right now; has he paid his fine? Do his caucus mem­bers ask whether they're paying for the fine?

      Again, these are all very, very im­por­tant questions the people of Manitoba would like to know.

      In the meantime, we don't sleep at night; we're working hard for you.

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Crime in Swan Valley Area
Request to Implement GIS Unit

Mr. Wayne Balcaen (Brandon West): The Minister of Justice (Mr. Wiebe) must be exhausted, standing up time and time again in this House to address his failures in Justice. I know Manitobans are getting tired of the false 'rhetic'–rhetoric and the fantasy he presents as fact.

      A year ago, he pretended he had an answer to organized crime in the Swan Valley area.

      So why, to date, has that GIS unit not been stood up by this minister; or is this just another NDP broken promise?

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Acting Minister of Justice and Attorney General): Hon­our­able Speaker, thank you very much for the op­por­tun­ity to talk about the great work that our Minister of Justice has done and is doing on this file.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, our Minister of Justice is advo­cating face to face with the federal minister today, and we will continue to push this issue. I regret that the member opposite has failed to watch the news this afternoon, so I will be happy to update the House about the in­cred­ible progress that our minister has made just today with our partners at the federal level.

      We have now succeeded and are leading the national push for bail reform after seven years of PC neglect on the issue. Just today, the federal gov­ern­ment has made an exciting an­nounce­ment on bail reform across Canada. I look forward to updating the member so that he can do his job–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Brandon West, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Balcaen: I see he is so exhausted he can't muster the strength to stand up in this Chamber today and answer this question.

      So when we speak about failings–

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Balcaen: –this very Premier said, we don't need any other level of government to fix bail reform. And now, his minister is asking the federal gov­ern­ment to help him.

      Why does this NDP gov­ern­ment continue to fail when it comes to crime?

MLA Schmidt: I look forward, for the next coming days, for the member opposite to have a couple of days to lick his wounds and prepare the apology that he can provide to the Minister of Justice the next time he should have a chance to ask a question, if the leader gives him that op­por­tun­ity.

      But as I just shared with the House, Hon­our­able Speaker, our Justice Minister has had fantastic success just today leading the charge with our partners at the federal level, who have announced a new bill on bail reform, thanks to the leadership of our Premier, thanks to the leadership of our in­cred­ible Minister of Justice (Mr. Wiebe), Canada is finally stepping up and is going to intro­duce a bill to finally intro­duce some bail reform into Canada.

      So one of the things that our–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable member for Brandon West, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Balcaen: Speaking of apologies, Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm wondering when this Premier (Mr. Kinew) will stand up in this House and apologize for the false narrative that he put out, saying that he could solve bail reform all on his own. Now his minister is pleading with the federal gov­ern­ment to bring this forward.

      We won't apologize for sticking up for Manitobans, but the apology should come for Swan River, and why the GIS section is not set up there under this failing Justice Minister.

MLA Schmidt: Hon­our­able Speaker, if the member opposite were serious about improving public safety here in Manitoba, if the member opposite were serious about bail reform here in Canada, he would be cele­brating this an­nounce­ment that we have heard from Prime Minister Carney today, because what these changes will do will keep Manitobans on our streets safer.

      One of the things that we have asked the federal gov­ern­ment to do, and one of the commit­ments that we understand that this bail reform bill will include, is an expansion of RCMP resources and officers. One thousand new RCMP personnel will be funded, thanks to the advocacy, as I said, of our Premier and of the Minister of Justice.

      Again, I hope that the member opposite takes the op­por­tun­ity–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Grocery Prices and Cost of Living Concerns
Request for Gov­ern­ment Plan to Address

Mr. Ron Schuler (Springfield-Ritchot): In September of 2024, this failed NDP Premier committed to lower­ing grocery prices. In fact, he went on to say, falsely, that he would be rewriting the riles to stop greedy cor­por­ations from price gouging.

      The question is to this Premier: How's that working?

Hon. Mintu Sandhu (Minister of Public Service Delivery): I'm so proud to be part of a team that's making life more affordable for Manitobans.

      In Budget 2025, our Finance Minister gave Manitobans not one, not two, but 25 ways to save. And that's on top of our permanent gas tax cut. I can't wait to keep working to lower costs for all Manitobans.

Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Springfield-Ritchot, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Schuler: I don't think Manitobans understand what that answer was. And I would point out, today there's a new report out today which indicates, and I quote: nearly half of Manitobans say they often can't make ends meet. Goes on to say, and I quote, often find them­selves in situations where they don't know how they're going to find the money to get by.

      The question is to this Premier: He made all kinds of commit­ments; maybe he should stop talking and start listening to Manitobans. They can't afford to put groceries on the table. People are struggling in this province; at least 50 per cent of them are struggling.

      Why does this Premier not start listening to Manitobans and then maybe indicate what he has for a program?

MLA Sandhu: Our team took action right away to lower costs by cutting the gas tax and saving Manitobans 14 cents a litre. Now this year we will freeze hydro rates, and we are ending that restrictive covenant that makes grocery prices–that made grocery prices more expensive.

      There's more work to do and our team is getting it done for all Manitobans.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Springfield-Ritchot, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Schuler: So this Kinew gov­ern­ment has a new saying for Manitobans: If they can't afford bread, they should eat gas.

* (14:20)

      Hon­our­able Speaker, 48 per cent of Manitobans say Manitoba's economic outlook for the province will get worse, even worse; 33 per cent say it's going to stay as bad; and 48 per cent say it's going to get worse.

      To this Premier: When is he going to stop talking? When is he going to start listening to Manitobans who can't afford to put groceries on the table? When is he going to come up with some kind of a program, some kind of help and not his platitudes and not his snarky smile and not his jokes and not his stupid pet tricks. When is he going to–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Schuler: –get up and do some­thing for Manitoba families who can't afford groceries?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Well, the first thing that we did when we took gov­ern­ment is that we cut the gas tax. That put more money into your pocket. I remember people coming up and saying, when gas prices were 99 cents on January 1, 2024, it was a big help. I remember being at the rink and having a dad say, you know what, I was able to take the family to McDonald's with the money that we saved gassing up. And now you want to know what we did with that? We made it permanent.

      We also froze your hydro rates. We ensured that there is more money at the end of the month for you to go buy groceries, to go take the kids to the movies. What else we did, of course, though, is we ended the inflation that was skyrocketing under the PCs, driven by energy crises.

      The members opposite have many, many things that they should be asking them­selves when we won the election on bread-and-butter economic issues. But the first question they should be asking the member for Springfield-Ritchot is: Are you finally going to get vaccinated this year?

Prov­incial Nominee Program
Number of Certificates for 2025

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): There's a great deal of concern with regards to inter­national stu­dents, as well as work permits for people of Ukrainian heritage that have settled in Manitoba since the war.

      Can the minister provide us with the number of PNP certificates that the Province will be receiving in 2025?

Hon. Malaya Marcelino (Minister of Labour and Immigration): I'd like to thank the member for that excellent question regarding the Manitoba Prov­incial Nominee Program.

      This year in 2025, the federal gov­ern­ment made an initial cut. It was like a 50 per cent cut compared to last year. It was a very devastating blow to our economy and all the efforts that we have here to grow and build here in Manitoba.

      Thankfully, the–through the advocacy that we've had here, with ministers around this side of the House and also through part­ner­ships with the busi­ness comSmu­nity and also with munici­pal leaders, we were able to convince the federal gov­ern­ment to increase our quota. And we're actually–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a supplementary question.

Processed and Unprocessed Applications

MLA Lamoureux: Hon­our­able Speaker, in order to meet Manitoba's labour needs and at the same time support temporary visa holders that are currently under implied status or restoration, our Province needs to be very clear as to where we stand.

      Can the minister share how many people are currently being processed and how many are still in the pool not currently being processed?

MLA Marcelino: As I was just trying to finish up the previous response, we have been able to increase our numbers to over 6,200. And just yesterday at a meeting with the federal, prov­incial, territorial ministers of immigration, we were able to get that number up another 200, so that's another 6,400 families here in Manitoba that we're going to be able to make perma­nent residents and Canadian citizens and Manitoba citizens permanently.

      We're continuing to advocate with the federal gov­ern­ment; that work does not stop. Because we need to have Manitoba prov­incial–

The Speaker: Time has expired.

      The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Request for Certificate Extensions

MLA Lamoureux: In recent weeks, I've met with individuals where their PNP certificate has expired, but their application for permanent residence has been submitted.

      Will the minister approve of extending the validity of a PNP certificate so that there are no complications, whether it be for reasons such as extended processing times for permanent residents or issues related to temporary visa holders?

MLA Marcelino: Work permit expirations is in the field and juris­dic­tion of the federal gov­ern­ment, so I would ask the member to, you know, refer to federal counterparts on that parti­cular query.

      But as it relates to Ukrainian refugees–are in Manitoba, I'm very pleased to announce to this House today that last month, we were able to bring in every single Ukrainian family that was part of that Manitoba nominee application. And that amounted to over 1,400 Ukrainian families across Manitoba.

Former Premier Stefanson
Caretaker Convention Breach

Mr. Logan Oxenham (Kirkfield Park): It has been 149 days since the Ethics Com­mis­sioner released his report into how former PC premier, Heather Stefanson, broke the law and violated our Con­sti­tu­tion, becoming the first premier to be fined under the act for breaking the law.

      Manitobans still have many questions for former PC premier Heather Stefanson, but still, Manitobans have gotten no answer from her, the PC leader or anyone else from his ethically bankrupt, corrupt PC caucus who helped break the law.

      Can the minister tell the House what the PC leader must do today to repair the damage his party has done to our demo­cracy?

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Acting Minister of Justice and Attorney General): Thank you to my friend, the MLA for Kirkfield Park, for that excellent question.

      And that is right. It has been 149 days since the Ethics Com­mis­sioner released his report into how the former premier, Heather Stefanson, how Cliff Cullen and the member for Red River North (Mr. Wharton) broke the law.

      Not only that, but it has been 10 whole days since the corrupt PCs were fined, making shameful history here in Manitoba. But Manitobans aren't any closer to finding out why Heather Stefanson and the PCs broke the law. The PC leader remains tight-lipped, showing absolutely no leadership.

      The clock is ticking, Hon­our­able Speaker, to pay those fines. So will the PC leader show any leadership today? Will he stand up for honest, hard-working Manitobans? Will he call his donor, the former PC premier, Heather Stefanson, at her Cayman Islands beach house today to ensure that she pays her fines–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Stephens Apartment Vacancies
Manitoba Housing Applications

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): I'd like to table a docu­ment today that nearly half of Manitobans say they can't make ends meet. So half of them can't go to the hockey rink.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I want to ask this Minister of Housing, Addictions and Homelessness if she would like to join me this Friday, tomorrow, at 11 a.m. for a meeting at Stephens Apartments in Portage and explain why this gov­ern­ment has not been taking applications for that building over two years.

Hon. Bernadette Smith (Minister of Housing, Addictions and Homelessness): You know, what I will say to that member is we are taking applications from every Manitoban for all of our Manitoba Housing buildings. We are open for busi­ness. We want to fill as many units as we can, unlike members opposite who sold off Manitoba Housing, who did not put invest­ments into fixing up Manitoba Housing.

      We're not taking that approach. We are investing. We are fixing up. We are building. We are open for busi­ness, and we are taking care of residents.

      Members opposite, they gutted the de­part­ment. They fired people in–that were ensuring that people were suc­cess­fully tenanted. We're not taking–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Portage la Prairie, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

MLA Bereza: We have people in Portage la Prairie looking and begging for Manitoba Housing suites every day.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, can this failed minister tell all those people that are waiting for housing why Stephens Apartments are two thirds empty for the past two years and they have no where to live?

* (14:30)

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Hon­our­able Speaker, our minister in charge of Housing is doing an amazing job renovating units, bringing hundreds of units online and accepting applications from people across the province: seniors, people who are looking to grow their families, people who need access to new living con­di­tions because of change in life. She's working for all those people, gladly will work with people from Portage la Prairie.

      Because we know that we love everybody in Manitoba, including folks outside the Perimeter. It was a real far cry from what we saw from the Leader of the Op­posi­tion the other day, talking to a room of farmers just downstairs. And he visited a farm this summer, he said people inside the city need to find out about what happens on these farms, they really, really need to know. I was kind of embarrassed for him. I was only just sitting there thinking to myself, brother, wait 'til you hear about reserves.

The Speaker: The time for oral questions has expired. [interjection]

      Order, please.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

(Continued)

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: I'd like to draw attention of all hon­our­able members to the loge to my left, where we have with us today Harold Taylor, former MLA for Wolseley.

      And on behalf of all hon­our­able members, we welcome you here today.

Motions of Condolence

The Speaker: Now, pursuant to yesterday's leave agree­ment–[interjection] I'd remind members that the Speaker is standing; should be heard.

      Pursuant to yesterday's leave agree­ment, con­dol­ence motions to be debated before petitions. Up to two members from each party and in­de­pen­dent members to speak for 10‑minute debates.

      So, just as a reminder, the House reached the following agree­ment yesterday that con­sid­era­tion of con­dol­ence motions will occur imme­diately following oral questions today, postponing petitions and grievances until con­sid­era­tion of the motions is complete. And up to two members from recog­nized parties and each inde­pen­dent member may speak to each con­dol­ence motion for up to 10 minutes.

      I will also remind members that in accordance with rule 63, at the conclusion of speeches of a con­dol­ence motion, the Speaker shall put the question and ask members to signify their approval of the motion by rising in their places for a moment of silence.

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): Can you please call the con­dol­ence motion for Harry Schellenberg, former MLA for Rossmere; followed by the con­dol­ence motion for Gérard Lécuyer, former MLA for Radisson; followed by the con­dol­ence motion for Herold Driedger, the former MLA for Niakwa.

Harry Schellenberg

The Speaker: It has now been announced that we will consider con­dol­ence motion for Harry Schellenberg, former MLA for Wellington and Inkster.

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): I move, seconded by the Minister of Finance (MLA Sala), that this House convey to the family of the late Harry Schellenberg, who served as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba its sincere sympathy in their bereavement and its ap­pre­cia­tion of his devotion to duty in a useful life of active com­mu­nity and public service, and that the Speaker be requested to forward a copy of this reso­lu­tion to the family.

Motion presented.

The Speaker: The floor is now open for speakers.

MLA Schmidt: It gives me great pleasure, and it's a real honour to rise today to speak to this con­dol­ence motion for such an excellent MLA and human being, Harry Schellenberg.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, there are many, many reasons that I am proud and very humble to serve as the MLA for Rossmere, and not the least of those reasons is because I follow in the footsteps of the great Harry Schellenberg. Harry Schellenberg was such an excellent MLA, an excellent mentor and friend to so many of us in this Chamber, on both sides.

      So Harry and I share this great honour of being the MLA for Rossmere. But we shared some­thing more than that. Harry and I also shared a name. That's right, Hon­our­able Speaker, I grew up as a Schellenberg. I haven't always been a Schmidt. I grew up–I spent the first several decades of my life as a Schellenberg. And while we weren't related–I was not actually related to Harry–Harry's roots, his Schellenberg roots, were from the Boissevain area of Manitoba; my own Schellenberg family roots are in the Altona area. Those areas aren't so far apart, but these are two different Schellenberg roots.

      But because Harry and I lived in the same com­mu­nity and we shared the same some­what unique last name, it was–we were often assumed to be related, and this was especially true during election time, Honour­able Speaker, when orange Schellenberg signs would pop up on hundreds of lawns across the neigh­bourhood.

      And I raise this to talk about some­thing that my partisan heart loves to talk about. There are so many things that we could talk about when we talk about Harry, but my partisan heart–and I know Harry was a true partisan and a true New Democrat–I love to talk about Harry's legacy and parti­cularly his historic political career and comeback, which was some­what against all odds.

      So, again, this first happened–the Schellenberg lawn signs appeared all over the neighbourhood first in 1993. I was in middle school, and that's when Harry first ran in a by‑election, which he went on to win. So at that time, in 1993, kids in my school, even teachers in the school–recog­nizing the same last name, they would ask, is that your dad? No. Is Harry your dad? No. Good luck to your dad. Thanks.

      I would finally just sort of–I became so sort of, you know, exhausted with having to explain over and over that there wasn't any relation; everyone assumed there was relation, so sometimes I would just sort of stop correcting people. And so there was this sort of white lie around the school that perhaps I may have been related to Harry Schellenberg.

      Of course, he went on to great success in the 1993 election. When the general election came around in 1995, and the Schellenberg signs went up, Harry fought in­cred­ibly hard, but the next morning at school I heard, sorry about the loss; must be hard on your family.

      And it must have been hard. That election was very close, but Harry was an in­cred­ibly deter­mined, in­cred­ibly value‑driven person, and he believed in the New Democrats. He believed in the NDP, and he believed in an NDP gov­ern­ment's commit­ment to making life better for everyday folks just like him.

      Harry believed in a gov­ern­ment that worked for teachers, that worked for farmers, that worked for workers, that worked for families. So he did not accept that defeat in 1995. He kept working. He kept speaking with his neighbours. And when those Schellenberg signs went back up in 1999, Harry was running against Vic Toews, who was the PC Justice minister at the time.

      Many assumed Mr. Toews was heavily favoured to win, but in the biggest upset, one of the biggest upsets perhaps in the history of northeast Winnipeg, Harry soundly defeated Vic Toews in the 1999 election. And in his victory, Harry taught us New Democrats what he had been teaching his students for many years before that, which is to never give up, to never let anyone tell you that it can't be done and if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

      I'd like to read a little bit–I had the great fortune of having the resources of the Legis­lative Library, who was able to do some research for me about the 1999 election. So I won't read a lot, but I do want to read from the public record a few public comments about the 1999 election, just to remind everyone about what it was like.

      So this is reporting of the morning after: There were cheers at an early NDP strong showing, groans when the Tories caught up and shouts of joy when candidate Harry Schellenberg was declared a winner over Justice minister Vic Toews in Rossmere.

      It's so sweet, I just had to read it onto the record, Hon­our­able Speaker.

* (14:40)

      I'd also like to read a little bit of Harry's own voice after that win. So, again, this is commentary from the Free Press: New Democrat Harry Schellenberg, a former high school and Stony Mountain In­sti­tution teacher played giant killer in Rossmere, toppling Tory Justice minister Vic Toews.

      Furthermore in this same article: one of the bigger upsets of the evening was Harry Schellenberg, who sent Justice minister Vic Toews packing in the traditionally Tory riding of Rossmere.

      And this is Harry being quoted here–I wanted some of Harry's words to be on the record here today, because he can't be here with us in person, and I wish he were. These are Harry's words: I have felt for the last four years that we could take on the Tories, Schellenberg said. When people want things to change, they make it happen, and it doesn't matter to them that a prominent Cabinet minister was running against me.

      I so ap­pre­ciate Harry's words, his tenacity and the ground that he laid in Rossmere. And I really am stand­ing on the shoulders of giants. As Harry men­tioned, there were times in Manitoba's history that Rossmere was considered a Tory stronghold, a PC stronghold, but Harry Schellenberg, and folks that came before him and after, have really changed the tide in Rossmere.

      And so, he taught us so much about second chances. As I mentioned, you know, and as everyone in the House–Chamber knows, Harry was a teacher, spent many years as a teacher. He taught for many years: world issues and history at River East Collegiate, which is the high school in Rossmere.

      But he also taught at Stony Mountain penitentiary. And so, this is just another one of those lessons that Harry gave to all of us about second chances. Harry believed that everyone, even those among us that are in the toughest of circum­stances, those among us to have made poor choices, those among us to have walked some of the toughest roads in life. With some guidance and with a solid edu­ca­tion, anyone can turn their life around. And that's some­thing Harry believed in deeply and some­thing I admired in him greatly, and is some­thing I believe all of us on this side of the House believe in and will continue to champion in Harry's memory.

      He also taught us about giving back to the com­mu­nity that gave to us, and about helping our friends and our neighbours. And Harry gave me so much. He gave me–not long after I became officially the candidate in Rossmere, Harry asked me to go out for coffee. We met at the Salisbury House on Henderson Highway, and he brought what I called the Rossmere files, but my friend from Kildonan-River East reminded me, I think probably Harry would have called it the Rossmere bible.

      And what he brought for me were all of the Manitoba election books that he had from when he had run, all annotated in pencil in the margins, with a poll‑by‑poll analysis. He gave me a notebook, again, on ruled, lined paper, just like a teacher would, in pencil, with names and phone numbers of stake­holders and im­por­tant contacts in the com­mu­nity. And I was just so very grateful for the time and energy that Harry had in not only his own political pursuits, but in passing that on to what you could call the next gen­era­tion.

      I'm quickly running out of time. I have to tell you, 10 minutes seems just, you know, frightfully inadequate to talk about Harry. I know some of my friends will have some time. I do want to quickly mention the member for Concordia, the Minister of Justice (Mr. Wiebe), is not here today, but he wanted me–he–I apologize. The Minister of Justice, the member for Concordia, would like me to express so much his gratitude for every­thing that Harry gave to him and to our northeast Winnipeg NDP com­mu­nity.

      So I–you know, I remember so much about Harry, but most of all I remember our visits. After becoming the candidate, we had many visits, sometimes with the member for Kildonan-River East (Mrs. Schott), some­times just alone. Always with Irene, sometimes with Angela, sometimes with Angela's children, and those visits in those final months and weeks will just stay with me forever, and it's really those times where we just sat in your living room talking. Those are the memories that I will cherish most of Harry.

      So while we miss him dearly, we thank him greatly for all that he gave to the con­stit­uents of Rossmere, for that he–every­thing he gave to our com­mu­nity as an educator, and we thank his family, his wife Irene, his children Angela and Harold, his grand­children for supporting Harry, for sharing him with us, and thank you for all of your con­tri­bu­tions, what you continue to give to our com­mu­nity.

      Thank you.

Mr. Ron Schuler (Springfield-Ritchot): When we first heard that Harry Schellenberg had passed away, I know for myself, I was quite taken aback. I was quite shaken by the fact that a individual that I've known for many years, that I've worked with in a lot of com­mu­nity projects, that I'd served with in this Chamber, had passed. And I did not know how serious his health was, and he certainly went quickly, and much too quickly, I would suggest.

      Because Harry Schellenberg is an–North Kildonan in­sti­tution, for those who in this Chamber don't know North Kildonan or the east–northeast side of the city of Winnipeg, how Harry Schellenberg helped to define the culture of northeast Winnipeg.

      And I had the op­por­tun­ity to work with him, and it was starting out–and he and a group of individuals, and I try to remember some of the names, and I'm going to be speaking a little bit about Henry Tessmann, and there were others, and I couldn't quite remember all the names of the board at that time. And they were com­mu­nity men and women, they were parents in the River East school division at that time, who wanted to put a language program into the River East school system. Laws had been passed that it was some­thing that could be done; gov­ern­ment said, yes, they had enough interested individuals; and Harry Schellenberg was a leader.

      And the thing about him, and most of my col­leagues don't know him, is he was tenacious, and he would keep coming at you and keep talking to you, and always had a stack of papers and always had a really good argument–boy, if you ever stumped him on some­thing, he'd come back the next day and he'd have a really good answer because he went–did his research why this was a good program. And he was very likeable. It was–just an in­cred­ible guy to work with. And in the com­mu­nity, and there was a group of parents, and it was quite large, who got the program going.

      And I'd like to say to the family that part of his legacy is the fact that Manitoba parents through German language edu­ca­tion still exists, and so does the German bilingual program in River East–now River East Transcona School Division. And I'd like to say to the family, because of the work of Harry and others–it wasn't just Harry Schellenberg but there were others–my children got to go through that program and had an amazing edu­ca­tion. And that is a legacy because of Harry Schellenberg.

      And I know he took time away from his family, from his wife and his children, because he was so passionate. This was one of his life's loves. He wanted to make sure this program went in. So then–and I always knew Harry Schellenberg was a New Democrat, and that was fine. We worked for a common goal. Then the day came, he said: you know, we've got to support somebody for school trustee. There was a–I believe it was a by‑election.

      And, yes, Harry Schellenberg and I worked together on a campaign. And I mentioned that in my comments when we had a bit of a con­dol­ence motion on November 21 of 2024. And he and I worked together, and I learnt a lot about campaigning. And we fell short, and that's too bad, because Henry Tessmann, outstanding individual in North Kildonan, involved in the medical com­mu­nity, and the Tessmann family, of course, are just bedrock of North Kildonan families. And, unfor­tunately, we fell short.

      And I would suggest to this Chamber one of the reasons why we fell short with that campaign is we should've listened more to Harry Schellenberg because he kept saying we've got to do more door to door. And he was such a believer that you go door to door, even when it came to Manitoba Parents for German Language Edu­ca­tion, is they would go door to door and they would talk to families, and they would talk to people, that that's how we got support for that program going.

      And should've listened. Henry's probably going to now go home and blame me for his loss because I didn't listen to Harry Schellenberg enough; I should've done more campaigning for him. But, I guess, maybe, it just wasn't meant to be.

      But Henry was a great candidate and I got to work with Harry Schellenberg in the way he did his politics. And he was very good at it. And by the way, Harry Schellenberg would be one of those guys who would take his stack of papers, and he would just go down some of the streets in Rossmere, all alone, and he'd go door to door, door to door, and he would speak to people. Good lesson for all of us. Very good lesson. He was definitely a com­mu­nity‑minded campaigner.

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      In–so in 1993, he got elected, was defeated in '95 and then he ran again in 1999, the same year I did, and we both got elected into this House, which was interesting, because now you had two individuals who came from the North Kildonan area–it's a little bit north to East St. Paul–was part of my con­stit­uency.

      So we had some interesting times here in this Chamber. And I would point out to the family that it was on the other end of this bench right here–sometimes Harry Schellenberg and I would get into a tussle about an issue. And we both came from North Kildonan so we both had strong opinions, and we would get into a debate–a fairly substantive debate–and we would do it in German. And there was one time, the Clerk started to look at us but nobody understood what we were saying because he and I were having a fight in German.

      And, I think, you know, we all know that Harry Schellenberg was Mennonite and I'm evangelical Christian. And I think all the Pentecostals in the place thought we were speaking in tongues because they couldn't understand us. And we had some really, really passionate con­ver­sa­tions here, and we would do it all in German. So how fitting that was.

      And you know what? He was no shirking violet. He would take–he would fight with you like you wouldn't believe, disagree with you. And at the end, you know I'd say to him: Ach, Harry, lass das schon gehen. [Oh, Harry, let it go already.] Let it go. And we'd say, ja [yes], then we would make up. You know, typical. And we had our debate and that would be the end of it.

      And, you know, when I heard that he had passed away, I thought about all the good times we had work­ing together, and I thought about the good debates I had with him in German and how much fun that was. And he was always respectful when he disagreed with you. Like, it was always on the issue. And we disagreed on issues.

      So he and I would debate the issue, and he never made it personal, never attacked. And he and I would–then because we both knew the com­mu­nity very well, because that was also at one point in time my school ward, so I–you know, we could talk about different streets and we we'd go after each other.

      And you know what? It was a lot of fun because, man, you'd go up against Harry Schellenberg who had campaigned a lot in North Kildonan and try to hold your own. You know what, he was a worthy opponent, and I certainly enjoyed my time when I could engage with him.

      To the family of Harry Schellenberg, he took a lot of time away from you, and we all know that. We know how much time this takes. And to his children and I'm sure his grandchildren who just loved him to pieces, I would like to say to them, thank you.

      You know, he's left a really good legacy. He's left a legacy of Manitoba parents through German language edu­ca­tion. He left the legacy of the German bilingual program–which, by the way, I may have a few rela­tives who are teaching in that program, and they're doing a great job and they've got full classes.

      And they've–now it seems to be a lot of the Ukrainian immigrants who have travelled through Germany now are putting their students in the German bilingual program, which is interesting because not too sure where the Schellenberg family–if they were more Russian German or if they were Ukrainian German–but how fitting. How fitting the Ukrainians would get into a German program that Harry Schellenberg helped to create.

      So you know what? He's left a great legacy. In his time here, he served well. He served with distinction, and he was an hon­our­able man.

      And so in the few moments I have left, I do want to leave with a salutation, and it is a very emotional one for those of you who come, like, from a German back­ground, so I'll try to get through it without getting too emotional.

      I'd like to close. Harry: Ruhe sanft in stiller Gruft, bis der Herr dich wieder ruft. [Rest gently in a quiet tomb, until the Lord calls you home.]

      Amen.

Mrs. Rachelle Schott (Kildonan-River East): Hon­our­able Speaker, it is with a heavy heart that I rise today on behalf of my con­stit­uents of Kildonan-River East to acknowledge the great life of my late con­stit­uent of Kildonan-River East, who was the former MLA for Rossmere.

      My earliest memory of Harry was at a Rossmere NDP con­stit­uency meeting when I was a teenager. My late grandpa, Rodney McAuley, who was the best volunteer sign man of northeast Winnipeg, who worked closely with Harry, brought me to this executive meeting, and Harry welcomed me and, of course, presented me with a Tommy Douglas book.

      I don't believe that I fully embraced their attempts at recruitment on this first date that I had with Harry, but later, my high school vice-principal at Miles Mac informed our student body that his wife had cancer. Our student council hosted a barbecue fundraiser at Kildonan Park with proceeds going to Concordia Hospital. As school president, I sent invitations to all of the elected officials, at all levels of gov­ern­ment, to come support our school's student-led initiative, our vice-principal and his wife and the great work of Concordia Hospital.

      No elected officials showed up, or so I thought. A man walked up very casually, extended his hand, and said, I am Harry. Can I buy a hot dog? That was the moment that stuck. As a young person, having Harry, the sitting MLA, show up made me feel seen and im­por­tant. Showing up matters.

      That was who Harry was. He showed up for his students, his com­mu­nity, his church and for the people who needed him most. And later in life, he showed up for me again. At the 2011 nomination meeting, Harry was right beside me, sup­port­ive as always, along with the late Lorne Topolniski. The two of them joked that I didn't have enough official clothes to be running for office, so they took me shopping at Le Château at Kildonan Place mall, which is very interesting, I'm sure, to all these people watching it. The blazer I'm wearing today was actually the one they bought with me, and it was my first piece of grown‑up clothing that I ever owned. So if you see me wearing it a lot, that's why–really special.

      Years later, when I was asked to run for office, I knew who exactly who to call–sorry, I'm going to stop looking at you–I knew exactly who to call. I asked Harry to meet me at possibly the most well‑known northeast Winnipeg meeting spot, already mentioned, the Salisbury House on Henderson Highway.

      Over coffee in that familiar red booth I asked him what he thought. His first response was, who will take care of your children? I didn't have an Irene at home to help me. That question alone speaks volumes to the realities that so many women in politics face today: the constant balancing act between public service and family life.

      After my nomination I became canvassing at some of the toughest polls. I have a photo from a Winnipeg Free Press CanStar article which is public record, but I'll table it at the end of my statement, if required, that highlights me and the member for Rossmere (MLA Schmidt) sharing a visit with Harry after a parti­cularly tough day.

      He reminded us that when he ran back in the 1990s against a sitting Cabinet minister, not even going to say his name again because he doesn't deserve that much credit–Vic, that is, not Harry–that Harry said it was just one door at a time. He then showed us the photo of the night Gary Doer held up his hand after the victory party, and the photo captures Harry's lifelong service and his belief that change starts in our own com­mu­nities.

      Harry's legacy is one I carry with me every day. More than his pro­fes­sional accomplishments, Harry had a profound personal impact on my life.

      And, personally, Harry always had faith and family top of mind. Irene and Harry were married, and together they built a life around it in love and faith. Harry was a devoted father to Harold and Angela and a proud grandfather. His family was his anchor, his joy and his greatest achievement.

      Edu­ca­tion, as mentioned, was Harry's calling. After graduating from Mennonite Collegiate In­sti­tute and Manitoba Teachers' College, his love for history and his belief and his lessons led him to teach for 25 years at red–River East Collegiate.

      And while some of his colleagues in North Kildonan didn't always believe in his potential to become an elected official in such a historically Conservative com­mu­nity, he proved them wrong and worked so hard, even taking on roles at schools, such as the water boy for the football team. Even though he wasn't the coach, he just wanted any op­por­tun­ity to support the students and the school com­mu­nity. He inspired countless students to think critically and care deeply about the world.

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      As mentioned, he also taught at Stony Mountain penitentiary, which I think speaks volumes to his demon­stration and conviction that education could trans­form lives in any setting.

      Harry was the founding president of Manitoba Parents for German Edu­ca­tion. He helped launch the German bilingual program in 1981, and this ground­breaking work ensured that language and heritage would thrive for future generations.

      His daughter Angela has actually resurrected that group, and there's a lot of active family members and parents in northeast Winnipeg that are working to make sure that this legacy stays alive and well. So thank you for all your work, Angela.

      Thanks to Harry's vision, thousands of students have had that op­por­tun­ity to learn in both English and German, strengthening the cultural ties and enriching Manitoba's educational landscape.

      In 1993, as mentioned, Harry brought his dedi­cation to public service into the political arena, winning a by-election to represent Rossmere as the NDP MLA. Though he faced defeat in 1995, he never stopped working and fighting for his community. He was an unpaid MLA, technically, for those couple years until his resilience carried him back to the Legislature in 1999 and again in 2003, serving until 2007.

      He worked tirelessly for his con­stit­uents, always listening and caring. Harry didn't go into politics for fame and power. He did it because he cared. He would frequently shovel the driveways, for example, of seniors in our com­mu­nity when they called his office, just so they didn't have to wait for someone to come from the City and help. He just wanted to show up and help people in our com­mu­nity.

      His efforts were recog­nized in 2002 when he received the Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal, a testament to his unwavering commit­ment to public service. Recently, Harry's family accepted the King Charles III Coronation Medal on his behalf. There was no more deserving recipient than Harry.

      In retirement–though in my mind, Harry never retired–Harry embraced life's simple pleasures: garden­ing, the Jets and the Bombers, coffee shop con­ver­sa­tions and travel. Harry liked to joke that the only thing that could allow him to miss a con­stit­uency meeting was a Jets game or one of his grandchildren's sports matches. He had his priorities in the right place: faith and family.

      One of his most meaningful journeys in recent years was to Ukraine, where he visited the village of his ancestors, a full‑circle moment that began gen­era­tions ago.

      It was, in fact, Harry's final–Harry faced his final challenge, an 18‑year‑long battle with cancer. He faced this challenge with courage and with grace. Even in illness, his spirit remained strong, his faith unwavering.

      On November 20, 2024, at the age of 85, Harry died peacefully at home surrounded by family. But his legacy lives on in classrooms and communities and in all the hearts of those who knew him.

      I mentioned–Canstar article also tells the story of how I learned of Harry's passing. After returning home from a particularly long day here at the Legislature, I turned my phone off to spend some time with family. I felt so terribly later when I turned it back on and there was a voicemail from Irene. Upon calling her back, I received the heartbreaking news of Harry's passing. She asked me to share the news with our com­mu­nity. I spent the rest of the evening reaching out, calling, emailing and texting those who needed to know.

      Early the next morning, I worked with the House leader to ensure Harry would be honoured in the Legislature, and our Minister of Edu­ca­tion was able to do a statement in the House. I remember allowing myself a few quiet tears while listening to the member for Rossmere's (MLA Schmidt) tribute before gathering my composure to deliver my own member statement.

      As we reflect on Harry Schellenberg's life, we are reminded that true leadership is not measured by titles or accolades but by the lives we touch and the hope we inspire. His belief in edu­ca­tion, equality, faith and com­mu­nity has left a legacy that will continue to shape Manitoba for gen­era­tions to come.

      Harry showed up for people, for students, for families, for neighbours, and because he did, so many of us learned to show up too. I would not be standing here today without Harry.

      On behalf of all of you who had the privilege to know him, thank you, Harry, for showing up what it means–showing us what it means to lead with love, humility and purpose. May we all carry forward your example of kindness, service and faith as we continue the work that you began.

The Speaker: Prior to putting the question on the motion, I'd like to draw the attention of all hon­our­able members to the public gallery, where we have with us today the family of Harry Schellenberg: Harry's wife Irene Schellenberg and their daughter Angela Schellenberg.

      The question is that this House convey to the family of the late Harry Schellenberg, who served as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, its sincerest sympathy in their bereavement and its appre­cia­tion of his devotion to duty in a useful life of active com­mu­nity and public service and that the Speaker be requested to forward a copy of this reso­lu­tion to the family.

      I'd ask all hon­our­able members to please rise and remain standing to indicate their support for this motion.

A moment of silence was observed.

The Speaker: Thank you.

      The motion is accordingly passed.

Gérard Lécuyer

 

The Speaker: Previously announced, we will now con­­sider a con­dol­ence motion for Gérard Lécuyer, former MLA for Radisson.

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MLA Robert Loiselle (St. Boniface): Je propose, avec l'appui de la députée de Radisson que l'Assemblée transmette à la famille du feu Gérard Lécuyer, qui a été député de l'Assemblée législative du Manitoba, ses sincères condoléances et sa gratitude pour le dévouement dont il a su faire preuve dans son travail au service de sa collectivité et de la popu­la­tion du Manitoba, et que le Président fasse parvenir une copie de la présente motion à la famille du défunt.

Translation

I move, seconded by the Member for Radisson, that this House extend to the family of the late Gérard Lécuyer, who served as a Member of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, its sincere condolences and gratitude for his dedication to serving his community and the people of Manitoba, and that the Speaker forward a copy of this motion to the family of the deceased. 

The Speaker: It's been moved by the hon­our­able member for St. Boniface, seconded by the hon­our­able member for Radisson (MLA Dela Cruz), that this House convey to the family of the late Gérard Lécuyer, who served as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, its sincerest sympathy in their bereave­ment and its ap­pre­cia­tion of his devotion to duty in the useful life of active com­mu­nity and public service and that this Speaker be requested to forward a copy of this reso­lu­tion to the family.

      The floor is now open for speakers.

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MLA Loiselle: Aujourd'hui, nous rendons hommage à un grand de la communauté franco-manitobaine et de la province Manitoba : l'honorable Gérard Lécuyer. Un bâtisseur, un leader, un père de famille, un homme de foi et un exemple pour tous de courage, de détermination et de ténacité.

      Honorable Président, je tiens à présenter mes sincères condoléances à la famille de Gérard et à ses enfants Michèle, Philippe, Natalie et Denis, ainsi qu'à tous ses petits-enfants, arrière-petits-enfants, frères, sœurs et à toute sa grande famille. Nous pensons à vous. Nous sommes profondément attristés par votre perte, et nous vous sommes très reconnaissants d'avoir partagé Gérard avec nous et avec le reste de la popu­la­tion du Manitoba.

      Gérard faisait partie de ces personnes qui vivent la vie au maximum avec le temps qui leur sont accordé. Il était enseignant, politicien, bâtisseur communautaire, défenseur et mentor, mais avant tout, c'était un homme, exceptionnel. Fils d'Albert Lécuyer et Susanne Delaloye, Gérard vient au monde en 1936 à Saint-Boniface et   grandit à Sainte-Agathe dans une famille de 14 enfants – 14 enfants. Imaginez-vous ça aujourd'hui.

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      C'était une maison pleine de vie, de français et de joie de vivre. C'était là que Gérard a appris très tôt ce qui signifie l'appartenance, la famille, la culture, la langue, travailler dur, partager et veiller sur l'un l'autre. Il a étudié au Collège de Saint-Boniface et à l'Université du Manitoba et, comme beaucoup d'entre nous, il a œuvré dans plusieurs domaines avant de trouver sa véritable vocation.

      Il a commencé dans le secteur privé, mais a finalement découvert que l'enseignement était sa véritable passion et vocation. D'ailleurs, une fois en enseignement, il s'y est consacré corps et âme. Il a commencé à enseigner le français à l'École Provencher à Saint‑Boniface. C'est là que son amour de l'enseignement a croisé quelque chose d'encore plus grand : son en­gage­ment profond à défendre la langue française du Manitoba, un en­gage­ment qui allait devenir le travail d'une vie entière.

      Gérard croyait que la langue était pas seulement des mots, mais aussi une identité, une histoire, un lien et un véhicule pour toute sa culture. Il croyait que tous les jeunes Francophones de cette province méritent d'apprendre dans leur propre langue et de reconnaître dans leurs salles de classe qui ils sont, d’où ils viennent, et d'avoir le droit de vivre leur culture à fond.

      Après l'enseignement, et après un certain temps au travail de l'Agence canadienne de développement inter­national au Sierra Leone et en Algérie, Gérard revient au berceau. C'est alors que ses convictions inévitables le conduit à la politique. En 1981, il a été élu 'dépu' de Radisson – député de Radisson et occupe les fonctions de ministre de l'Environnement, de la Sécurité et de la Santé au travail de 1983 jusqu'à 1998.

      Si vous parlez à quelqu'un qui a travaillé avec Gérard au courant des années, ils vous diront jusqu'à quel point qu'il était un homme déterminé. Il s'est battu avec acharnement pour l'accès, le respect et l'égalité – non seulement pour les francophones du Manitoba, mais aussi pour toutes les communautés qui ont dû se battre pour être vues et entendues.

      Il n'avait pas peur de la controverse, il n'avait pas peur de défendre ce qui était juste, même lorsque les batailles n'étaient pas faciles. Cependant, il le faisait avec intégrité, avec un calme fondé dans le respect et une assurance qui incitait les gens à l'écouter, même lorsqu'ils n'étaient pas d'accord avec lui.

      Lorsque son gouvernement a été défait en 1988, Gérard n'a pas ralenti. Au contraire, il a quitté son île, il est parti vers le nord – au Grand Nord – vers le Yukon. C'est là que l'histoire de Gérard prend une autre dimension aussi étonnante que l'homme en question.

      Embauché par le gouvernement du Yukon, Gérard aide à mettre en œuvre la Loi sur les langues contribuant ainsi à faire des services en français une réalité dans le territoire du Yukon. Et il l'a fait comme Gérard savait bien le faire : avec patience, respect et détermination.

      Au fil des épreuves et des défis, Gérard établit des ponts entre la communauté franco-yukonnaise et le gouvernement territorial. Il a contribué à la création du Bureau de la traduction et de l'interprétation qui est aujourd'hui la Direction des services en français, une in­sti­tution qui fonctionne encore aujourd'hui grâce au travail préparatoire qu'il a accompli. Et lorsque le Yukon a entrepris de réviser sa loi sur l'éducation, Gérard a vu une occasion de faire avancer les choses : il a convaincu le premier 'mitiste' de l'époque, Tony Penikett, d’inclure une clause permettant la création d'un conseil scolaire francophone au Yukon.

      Cette seule clause a tout changé. Elle a ouvert la voie à l'enseignement français au Yukon et a même influencé plus tard les communautés autochtones à créer leurs propres conseils scolaires. C'est ce genre d'impact qu'on reconnaît chez Gérard : discret, réfléchi et intègre.

      À son retour au Manitoba en 1990, il est devenu directeur général de la Fédération provinciale des comités de parents du Manitoba et a occupé le poste de directeur général de 90 à 93.

      J'aimerais aussi noter que, pendant ces années, Gérard avait aussi été co-président du comité organisateur du rassemblement du siècle, une grande rencontre des anciens du Collège de Saint-Boniface, tenue en 1992, et c'est en leur nom qu'il avait accepté le prix Riel.

      Et une fois de plus, il s'est remis à lutter pour l'enseignement en français, cette fois pour le droit des parents, ici au Manitoba, à gérer leurs propres écoles. Sous sa direction, l'organisme a traversé une période charnière pour l'éducation francophone au Manitoba. C'est durant ce mandat que la FPCP a inauguré le Centre des ressources éducatives à l'enfance, comme on les connaît aujourd'hui : les CRÉE, mené des con­sul­ta­tions avec plus de 1 500 parents francophones et présenté une cause devant la Cour suprême du Canada, ce qui a mené à la reconnaissance du droit à la gestion scolaire par et pour les francophones du Manitoba en 1993.

      Ce combat a abouti à une décision historique de la Cour suprême en 1993, qui a ouvert la voie à la création de la Division scolaire franco-manitobaine en 1994. Une division scolaire entière a été créée qui existe encore aujourd'hui parce que des personnes comme Gérard ont refusé d'abandonner–excusez–ont refusé d'abandonner.

      Au cours de ses années–de ses 88 années d'existence, Gérard a transformé des vies. Il a changé des systèmes, mais plus encore, il a inspiré plusieurs à faire mieux. Il nous a montré par son exemple qu'une seule personne armée de conviction, de patience et de cœur peut protéger une langue, façonner une communauté et bâtir une province plus juste.

      Merci, Gérard. On t'aime. Tu nous manques. Mais sache que ton travail continue avec nous grâce à toi, dans nos foyers, dans nos communautés, dans nos écoles et dans nos cœurs.

      Merci.

Translation

Today, we pay tribute to a great figure in the Franco-Manitoban community and the province of Manitoba: the Honourable Gérard Lécuyer. A builder, a leader, a family man, a man of faith and an example to all of courage, determination and tenacity.

Honourable Speaker, I would like to offer my sincere condolences to Gérard's family and his children Michèle, Philippe, Natalie and Denis, as well as all his grandchildren, great-grandchildren, brothers, sisters and his entire extended family. Our thoughts are with you. We are deeply saddened by your loss, and we are very grateful to you for sharing Gérard with us and with the rest of the people of Manitoba.

Gérard was one of those people who lived life to the fullest with the time he was given. He was a teacher, politician, community builder, advocate and mentor, but above all, he was an exceptional man.

The son of Albert Lécuyer and Susanne Delaloye, Gérard was born in 1936 in St. Boniface and grew up in Ste. Agathe in a family of 14 children–14 children. Imagine that today.

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It was a house full of life, French and joie de vivre. It was there that Gérard learned at an early age the meaning of belonging, family, culture, language, hard work, sharing and looking out for one another. He studied at the Collège de Saint‑Boniface and the University of Manitoba and, like many of us, worked in several fields before finding his true calling.

He started out in the private sector, but eventually discovered that teaching was his true passion and calling. Once he began teaching, he devoted himself to it, body and soul. He started teaching French at École Provencher in St. Boniface. It was there that his love of teaching intersected with something even greater: his deep commitment to defending the French language in Manitoba, a commitment that would become his life's work.

Gérard believed that his language was not just words, but also an identity, a history, a connection and a vehicle for his entire culture. He believed that all young Francophones in this province deserved to learn in their own language and to recognize who they were and where they came from in their classrooms, and to have the right to live their culture to the fullest.

After teaching, and after spending some time working for the Canadian International Development Agency in Sierra Leone and Algeria, Gérard returned to his roots. It was then that his convictions inevitably led him to politics. In 1981, he was elected M-A–MLA for Radisson and served as minister of the environment, safety and occupational health from 1983 to 1998.

If you talk to anyone who worked with Gérard over the years, they will tell you what a determined man he was. He fought relentlessly for access, respect and equality–not only for Manitoba's Francophones, but for all communities that had to fight to be seen and heard.

He was not afraid of controversy, he was not afraid to stand up for what was right, even when the battles were not easy. However, he did so with integrity, with a calmness grounded in respect and a confidence that made people listen to him, even when they disagreed with him.

When his government was defeated in 1988, Gérard did not slow down. On the contrary, he left his island and headed north–to the far north–to the Yukon. It is there that Gérard's story takes on another dimension as astonishing as the man himself.

Hired by the Yukon government, Gérard helped implement the Languages Act, thereby contributing to making French-language services a reality in the Yukon Territory. And he did it the way Gérard knew how to do it best: with patience, respect and determination.

Through trials and challenges, Gérard built bridges between the Franco-Yukon community and the territorial government. He contributed to the creation of the Translation and Interpretation Bureau, which is now the French Language Services Directorate, an institution that still operates today thanks to the groundwork he laid. And when the Yukon undertook to revise its education law, Gérard saw an opportunity to move things further: he convinced the then Premier, Tony Penikett, to include a clause allowing for the creation of a French-language school board in the Yukon.

That single clause changed everything. It paved the way for French-language education in the Yukon and even influenced Indigenous communities to create their own school boards later on. This is the kind of impact we recognize in Gérard: discreet, thoughtful and honest.

Upon his return to Manitoba in 1990, he became executive director of the Fédération provinciale des comités de parents du Manitoba (FPCP) and held the position of executive director from 1990 to 1993.

I would also like to note that during those years, Gérard was also co-chair of the organizing committee for the Gathering of the Century, a large reunion of Collège de Saint-Boniface alumni held in 1992, and it was on their behalf that he accepted the Riel Award.

Once again, he took up the fight for French-language education, this time for the right of parents here in Manitoba to manage their own schools. Under his leadership, the organization went through a pivotal period for French-language education in Manitoba. It was during his tenure that the FPCP inaugurated the Centre des ressources éducatives à l'enfance–now known as the CRÉEs–conducted consultations with more than 1,500 Francophone parents, and presented a case before the Supreme Court of Canada, which led to the recognition of the right to school management by and for Francophones in Manitoba in 1993.

This fight culminated in a historic Supreme Court decision in 1993, which paved the way for the creation of the Franco-Manitoban School Division in 1994. An entire school division was created that still exists today because people like Gérard refused to give up–excuse me–refused to give up.

Throughout his years–his 88 years of life, Gérard transformed lives. He changed systems, but more importantly, he inspired many to do better. He showed us by his own example that a single person armed with conviction, patience and heart can protect a language, shape a community and build a more just province.

Thank you, Gérard. We love you. We miss you. But know that your work lives on with us, thanks to you, in our homes, in our communities, in our schools and in our hearts.

Thank you.

Mr. Greg Nesbitt (Riding Mountain): Hon­our­able Speaker, we gather today to pay tribute to a man whose life was devoted to service, to edu­ca­tion, to his francophone com­mu­nity, to his province and to the values of justice, of fairness, of persistence.

      We are here to remember Gérard Lécuyer: teacher, public servant, advocate and change maker. Gérard was born on August 2, 1936, in Ste. Agathe, one of 14 children of Albert Lécuyer and Suzanne Delaloye.

      Growing up in a large family taught him the value of com­mu­nity, of co‑operation and of speaking up for those whose voices might be quieter. Edu­ca­tion was central in his youth. He attended Collège de Saint‑Boniface and then the Uni­ver­sity of Manitoba, laying the groundwork for his life's work.

      He began his career as an educator in the St. Boniface School Division, but his horizons were broad from the start. Gérard spent years teaching overseas under the auspices of the Canadian Inter­national Development Agency in places such as Sierra Leone and Algeria. Those early years abroad were formative, not just in affirming his love for teaching, but in giving him a deep sense of how language, culture, gov­ern­ance and rights matter–how they matter everywhere, especially where people are in minority or struggle to have a say.

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      In 1981, Gérard took a major step. He was elected Member of the Legislative Assembly for the riding of Radisson under the New Demo­cratic Party. He served two terms, re-elected in 1986. During that period he was appointed minister of environ­ment and work­place safety and health in 1993, a role in which he held im­por­tant respon­si­bility for the well-being of Manitobans.

      Beyond his min­is­terial duties, perhaps the most enduring thread in his political life was his passionate advocacy for francophone rights, parti­cularly French language services and edu­ca­tion. He was a leading voice for legal re-entrenchment of French language services in Manitoba.

      Even after his electoral defeat in 1988, Gérard did not step back. His post-politics career was marked by leadership in the francophone com­mu­nity, especially in edu­ca­tion and parental involvement.

      In 1990 he became executive director of the Fédération prov­inciale des comités de parents du Manitoba. Under his leadership, the FPCP pursued a groundbreaking legal case that eventually led to a 1993 Supreme Court decision affirming the rights of francophone parents under section 23 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

      That decision paved the way for the esta­blish­ment of the Division scolaire franco-manitobaine in 1994, a fully fledged francophone school division, a milestone in Manitoba's history and a pillar of strength for its francophone com­mu­nity.

      Gérard's work was not limited to Manitoba. He lent his voice, guidance and energy to the Yukon, helping that territory move forward in granting legal recog­nition and gov­ern­ance rights for French language edu­ca­tion, including work toward school gov­ern­ance rights around 1996.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, we might ask: What made Gérard so effective, so respective, so beloved? Integrity: many who worked with him remember his moral clarity. He sought what is right, what is just, what is necessary, rather than what was expedient. Tenacity: he wasn't one to give up. Colleagues recall how he travelled community to com­mu­nity meeting with parents, explaining legal rights, engaging in con­sul­ta­tion, pushing through obstacles. Faith in com­mu­nity: he believed deeply in em­power­ing parents in ensuring that francophone Manitobans had not just services, but gov­ern­ance, decision-making control. A bridge builder: his early years abroad, his work in gov­ern­ment, his leadership in civil society, Gérard built connections across divides, whether linguistic, geo­graphic or political.

      He saw the long term, that for minority language com­mu­nities to survive and flourish, they need legal rights, in­sti­tutional structures and collective voice.

      The esta­blish­ments, rulings, and in­sti­tutions Gérard con­tri­bu­ted to are more than accomplishments on paper. They are living parts of Manitoba's identity. Let us reflect on some of what remains.

      Because of Gérard's work, thousands of Franco-Manitoban children now attend schools where French is the language of instruction, governed by their own division, with their language, culture and identity honoured and integrated. This is both a practical service and a symbol of recog­nition of belonging.

      The legal affirmation of parents rights under section 23 is a landmark moment. It esta­blished legal precedent, clarified rights and offered recourse to com­mu­nities seeking language edu­ca­tion. That deci­sion still resonates. Its effects still protect rights today.

      Gérard's influence extended beyond Manitoba. He supported the esta­blish­ment of French language services in gov­ern­ance in the Yukon, helping shape policy and legal frameworks.

      Beyond in­sti­tutions, Gérard leaves behind people–parents, teachers, activists–who saw him in a model of advocacy of what can be achieved when one believes in justice and works tirelessly. Example–his example shows that change often takes years, persistence, en­gage­ment at many levels–legal, political, social–but that it is possible.

      We remember Gérard not only for his public achievements, but also for his personal dimensions that grounded him: love of family, love of place, love for his roots. He was predeceased by his beloved wife Irène and daughter Denise. He leaves children, grand­children, great-grandchildren and a large extended family, including his many siblings.

      Even in his later years, Gérard pursued projects close to his heart: com­mu­nity dev­elop­ment, con­sul­ta­tion, environ­ment, edu­ca­tion. When he could, he walked the Camino de Santiago with his grand­daughter, fulfilling a lifelong dream. He found peace and joy at his Albert Beach cottage and solace in the company of family and friends. These personal threads remind us that for all his public service, Gérard was, above all, a man of warmth, of relationships, of connection.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, as we honour Gérard there are lessons for all of us: that meaningful change often comes from those who are willing to stay in the fight, even when progress is slow; that protecting minority rights, language rights, cultural rights requires both in­sti­tution-building and legal recourse; that leadership is not always about headlines; it's about showing up in com­mu­nities, educating, listening, organizing, advo­cating; that patience and courage go hand in hand, courage to speak truth, patience to see justice through even when the path is obstructed.

      Today we pay tribute not simply to what Gérard did, but to who he was: principled, steadfast, com­pas­sion­ate, committed. We remember someone who never lost sight of the idea that every child, every parent, every francophone in our province deserves dignity, respect and the means to preserve their language and culture.

      Today we honour a man whose legacy is woven into the very fabric of Manitoba through schools, through rights, through in­sti­tutions, through lives changed.

      And so, as we say goodbye, we also say thank you, Gérard, for your labour, your leadership, your love. May we carry forward your work with the same integrity, the same commit­ment, and may the benefits of your life continue to bloom in our schools, in our com­mu­nities, in gen­era­tions to come.

      Rest in peace, Gérard. Your life was a gift to Manitoba; your memory will be a blessing.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

French spoken

Hon. Glen Simard (Minister responsible for Francophone Affairs): Honorable Président, je tiens aussi à présenter mes sincères condoléances à la famille de Gérard, ici présente. En tant que ministre responsable des Affaires francophones, je reconnais le – que le travail de notre gouvernement aujourd'hui ne serait pas possible sans des pionniers et des défenseurs de la langue française comme Gérard.

      J’peux dire que je me vois un peu – je tiens à l'esprit de Gérard, car moi aussi je viens d'un petit village où il fallait défendre ses droits linguistiques, que mon père était fils dans une famille de 14 enfants aussi, alors peut-être la ténacité à l'heure du souper est allée dans leurs propres vies.

      Je sais que mon père était épaule à épaule avec Gérard pendant les – les projets de loi et pendant les – les batailles dans la Cour suprême, et que dans mon village, j'ai pas eu l'occasion de suivre mes cours en français en secondaire, car la DSFM n'était pas là. Et à cause de lui et à cause de les gens qui l'ont supporté, nous avons cette école présentement dans mon village.

      Et d'ailleurs, sans Gérard, cette division scolaire – l'étendue à l'échelle de toute la province du Manitoba – n'aurait peut-être jamais vu le jour. Imaginez aller à communauté à communauté, et peut-être à ces jours, dire que nous allons construire une école à Brandon – de la DSFM – et potentiellement à Niverville : c'est incroyable.

      Et d'après Gilbert Savard et Raymond Poirier, les  deux s'accordent pour dire que – de Gérard Lécuyer – qu'il était un homme de tenace, et intègre. Et selon Raymond Poirier, c'était un gars avait – qui avait un sens aigu de la justice sociale. Certains disaient qu'il était têtu, mais c'était bon d'avoir quelqu'un qui ne flanchait pas facilement. C'était le genre de personne qui allait au bout des choses : on ne l'amenait pas facilement aller faire des compromis.

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      Même après toutes ses grandes victoires au Manitoba, Gérard n'avait pas tout à fait fini de faire avancer les choses. Il est retourné au Yukon une deuxième fois pour aider à créer officiellement la Com­mis­sion scolaire francophone du Yukon en 1996, non pour l'aventure, la gloire, la salaire – salaire ou la reconnaissance, il y est allé parce que il se souciait à la cause du français au Yukon. D'après Madame Beaudoin, elle-même grande défenseure des droits des Francophones du Yukon et agente de liaison pour l'Association franco-yukonnaise, il arrivait une bonne expérience de son passage au gouvernement du Manitoba.

      C'était un ardent défenseur des droits des Francophones. Il y avait de la rigueur et de l'intelligence dans ce qu'il faisait.

      Et lorsqu'il est facilement revenu s'installer définitivement au Manitoba, il a continué à travailler comme consultant dans les domaines de l'éducation, de l'environnement et du développement communautaire, toujours généreux, toujours rassembleur, toujours constructif.

      À l'âge de 75 – 79 ans, il a même la chance de réaliser un rêve de longue date : marcher le chemin de Compostelle avec sa petite-fille Pascale. Avec sa famille et ses amis, c'est au chalet à Plage Albert où il a passé de nombreux étés en nature, proche de ceux qu'il aimait, où il était heureux. Après la perte de sa femme Irène, le chalet est devenu pour lui un havre de paix, un lieu où il pouvait réfléchir, guérir et rire à nouveau.

      Les personnes qui ont connu Gérard parlent de sa gentillesse, mais aussi de sa vision très claire de la justice. Il avait cette clarté morale tranquille, celle qui n'a pas besoin de faire trop de bruit. Il croyait fermement en l'équité – en l’équité – à l'égalité, à sa communauté franco-manitobaine qu'il aimait de tout son cœur.

      Je peux seulement imaginer quels mots il aurait partagés pendant notre consultation publique pour rendre la province véritablement bilingue : c'est certain qu'il aurait des conseils. Il pouvait s'asseoir en face d'une personne ayant des opinions ou des convictions politiques complètement différentes des siennes et lui donner le sentiment d'être respectée parce qu'il avait le don de l'écoute, de la patience et parce qu'il souciait les autres.

      À sa famille : sachez que Gérard a laissé une empreinte bien au-delà de ce Palais législatif, bien au-delà de cette  province. Son travail a renforcé l'éducation francophone partout au Canada. Son influence est présente dans les salles de classe, les politiques et les communautés de Saint-Boniface à Whitehorse.

      Et à ceux d'entre nous qui suivent ses traces, que ce soit en politique, dans l'enseignement ou dans le travail communautaire : Gérard nous rappelle que ce signifie vraiment servir. Il ne s'agit pas simplement d'éloges ou de reconnaissances. Il s'agit de retrousser les manches et de faire le travail. Il s'agit de croire au potentiel des autres, de rassembler, d'être présents de façon consistante parce que c'est im­por­tant.

      Aujourd'hui, nous ne nous contentons pas de pleurer la disparition de Gérard : nous célébrons sa vie. Nous célébrons son courage, son humour, sa chaleur et son incroyable conviction que l'éducation et la langue ont le pouvoir de rassembler les gens.

      Merci Gérard, pour tout ce que tu as fait. Merci pour ton courage, ta persévérance et ta foi dans les gens. Repose – repose en paix, Gérard. Tu nous manqueras, mais ton héritage perdurera quand – dans chaque élève qui apprend le français, dans chaque enseignant qui porte le flambeau et dans chaque Manitobain qui croit de nos différences ne sont pas un facteur de division, mais plutôt une source de fierté.

      Merci.

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Honourable Speaker, I would also like to offer my sincere condolences to Gérard's family, who is here today. As the minister responsible for Francophone Affairs, I recognize our–that our government's work today would not be possible without pioneers and defenders of the French language like Gérard.

I can say that I see myself–I take a little bit after Gérard's spirit, because I too come from a small town where we had to defend our language rights, and my father was also one of 14 children, so perhaps that tenacity at dinnertime carried over into their own lives.

I know that my father stood shoulder to shoulder with Gérard during the–the bills and during the battles in the Supreme Court, and that in my town, I didn't have the opportunity to take French classes in high school because the DSFM wasn't there. And because of him and because of the people who supported him, we now have this school in my town.

Besides, without Gérard, this school division–which covers the entire province of Manitoba–might never have had its day to have seen the light of day. Imagine going from community to community, perhaps nowadays, saying that we are going to build a school in Brandon–for the DSFM–and potentially in Niverville: it's in­cred­ible.

According to Gilbert Savard and Raymond Poirier, both agree that Gérard Lécuyer–he was a tenacious man of integrity. According to Raymond Poirier, he was a guy had–who had a keen sense of social justice. Some said he was stubborn, but it was good to have someone who didn't give in easily. He was the kind of person who saw things through to the end: he wasn't easily persuaded to compromise.

Even after all his great victories in Manitoba, Gérard wasn't quite done making things happen. He returned to the Yukon a second time to help officially create the Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon in 1996. He didn't go for adventure, glory, salary, or recognition: he went because he cared about the cause of French in the Yukon. According to Ms. Beaudoin, herself a great defender of the rights of Francophones in the Yukon and liaison officer for the Association franco-yukonnaise, he brought valuable experience from his time with the Manitoba government.

He was a staunch defender of Francophone rights. There was rigour and intelligence in everything he did.

When he easily returned to settle permanently in Manitoba, he continued to work as a consultant in the fields of education, the environment and community development, always generous, always unifying, always constructive.

At the age of 75–79, he even had the chance to fulfill a long-held dream: to walk the Camino de Santiago with his granddaughter Pascale. With his family and friends, it was at the cottage in Albert Beach that he spent many summers in nature, close to those he loved and where he was happy. After the loss of his wife Irène, the cottage became a haven of peace for him, a place where he could reflect, heal and laugh again.

Those who knew Gérard speak of his kindness, but also of his very clear sense of justice. He had a quiet moral clarity, one that did not need to make too much noise. He believed strongly in fairness–in fairness– equality and his Franco-Manitoban community, which he loved with all his heart.

I can only imagine what words he would have shared during our public consultation to make the province truly bilingual: he would certainly have had advice. He could sit across from someone with completely different political opinions or beliefs and make them feel respected because he had a gift for listening and patience, and because he cared about others.

To his family: know that Gérard left a mark far beyond this Legislative Assembly, far beyond this province. His work strengthened French-language education across Canada. His influence is felt in classrooms, policies and communities from St. Boniface to Whitehorse.

And to those of us who are following in his footsteps, whether in politics, teaching, or community work, Gérard reminds us what it truly means to serve. It's not just about praise or recognition. It's about rolling up your sleeves and getting the job done. It's about believing in the potential of others, bringing people together and being consistently present because it matters.

Today, we are not just mourning Gérard's passing: we are celebrating his life. We are celebrating his courage, his humour, his warmth and his incredible belief that education and language have the power to bring people together.

Thank you, Gérard, for everything you did. Thank you for your courage, your perseverance and your faith in people. Rest in peace, Gérard. We will miss you, but your legacy will live on when–in every student who learns French, in every teacher who carries the torch, and in every Manitoban who believes that our differences are not a source of division, but rather a source of pride.

Thank you.

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: Prior to putting the question on the con­dol­ence motion, I'd like to draw members' attention to the public gallery where we have family of the member Gérard Lécuyer: Michèle Lécuyer-Hutton, David Hutton, Pascale Hutton, Felipé Lécuyer, Natalie Lécuyer, Colin Osis, George Lécuyer, Darlene Lécuyer, Joseph Lécuyer, Yvette Lécuyer, Rita Lécuyer, Mark Lécuyer, Pauline Labossière, Linda Kubinec and Gary Kubinec.

      We welcome you here today.

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The Speaker: So the question is that this House convey to the family of the late Gérard Lécuyer, who served as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba its sincere sympathy in their bereavement, and its ap­pre­cia­tion of his devotion to duty and–in a useful life of active com­mu­nity and public service, and that the Speaker be requested to forward a copy of the reso­lu­tion to the family.

      And again I would ask members to please rise and remain standing to indicate their support.

A moment of silence was observed.

The Speaker: Thank you. The motion is accordingly passed.

Herold Driedger

The Speaker: Now we will consider a con­dol­ence motion for Herold Driedger, former member for Niakwa.

MLA Billie Cross (Seine River): I move, seconded by the MLA for Tyndall Park, that this House convey to the family of the late Herold Driedger, who served as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, its sincere sympathy in their bereavement, and its appre­cia­tion of his devotion to duty in a useful life of active com­mu­nity and public service, and that the Speaker be requested to forward a copy of this reso­lu­tion to the family.

Motion presented.

The Speaker: The floor is now open for speakers.

MLA Cross: I rise today on behalf of the gov­ern­ment caucus to pay tribute to a remark­able Manitoban, the late Herold Driedger.

      Before I begin, I want to extend my deepest condol­ences to Herold's family, to his daughters, Laurie and Michelle; to his grandchildren and great-grandchildren; to his sister Melita; to his loving partner June Harris; and to all their extended families. We are thinking of you. We are sorry for your loss and we are so grateful that you shared Herold with all of us: his students, his colleagues and the people of Manitoba.

      Herold Driedger was one of those rare individuals who seemed to live many lives in one lifetime. He was a teacher, a public servant, a musician, a mentor and a friend to so many.

      But above all else, he was a man guided by pur­pose, by the quiet belief that we are all here to make the world a little kinder, a little wiser and a little better.

      He was born in Grunthal, Manitoba, the eldest child of his family. The Driedger family was well-known in town, running the Rainbow Inn, later Lou's Restaurant, along with a service station and bulk oil dealership. This was a hub of com­mu­nity life, a place where people gathered, laughed and shared stories.

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      It was there in that small-town atmosphere that Herold learned what hard work meant but also what it meant to serve others. That spirit of pitching in where you could, of helping neighbours and showing kind­ness never left him.

      Herold was a lifelong teacher. Books fascinated him. The world fascinated him. So when it came time to choose a career, he chose teaching because teaching meant shaping lives.

      He attended teachers' college, then earned his bachelor of arts in edu­ca­tion from United College and later a master of arts in geography from the Uni­ver­sity of Manitoba. He went on to teach geography and social studies in the Winnipeg School Division for 30 years at Sisler High, Gordon Bell and General Wolfe.

      For three decades, Herold filled classrooms with joy, curiosity and laughter. He believed in giving young people the tools to think for them­selves, to question, to explore and to see the world not as some­thing distant but as some­thing that they were a part of.

       If you talk to his former students, they'll tell you: Mr. Driedger made you feel seen. He encouraged you when you didn't believe in yourself. He turned ordinary lessons into moments of discovery. And that, Hon­our­able Speaker, is the mark of a great teacher, one whose lessons live long after the bells ring.

      Herold's commit­ment to others didn't just stop at the classroom door. He believed deeply in public service, in using his voice to make a difference.

      In 1988, Herold was elected as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly for Niakwa, a con­stit­uency that later became known as Seine River. He brought fair­ness, thoughtfulness and open-mindedness, the same things that he defined his–that defined his teaching career.

      Herold believed in civil debate, in listening to people with different perspectives and finding com­mon ground. He often said that good gov­ern­ance is a lot like good teaching: you don't succeed by talking the loudest; you succeed by helping people understand one another.

      After leaving office, Herold continued to serve in ways that improved the lives of others. He worked with the Canadian Part­ner­ship Against Cancer and with the George and Fay Yee Centre for Healthcare Innovation, helping improve how patients ex­per­ienced care. To Herold, compassion wasn't just a word in health care; it was a daily practice.

      He was also an active member of the association of former Manitoba MLAs, always promoting respect­ful dialogue and civic en­gage­ment. He believed that disagreement didn't have to mean division, that we could debate fiercely and still treat each other with dignity and respect. That was his quiet moral com­pass, and it guided every­thing he did.

      Now, if teaching and public service was Herold's calling, then music was his heartbeat. From singing in school and church choirs to performing in musical theatre in Winnipeg, music was woven through­out his life.

      In 1995, he joined the Winnipeg Golden Chordsmen, later known as River City Sound, and found his true musical home in barbershop harmony. He sang bass with the quartet Harlequin, along with–alongside Rob Smith, Larry Hunter and Paul Bullock. Together, they shared laughter, harmony and friendship for more than 25 years, performing at shows, competitions and celebrations across Manitoba. They even marked their 25th anniversary concert in 2023 surrounded by family and friends, still singing and still smiling. That's who Herold was, even in later years, still finding joy in song, still sharing it generously.

      My under­standing is he enjoyed the simple pleasures in life: a round of golf, a day on the water, a quiet evening with family. He also had an adventurous streak, travelling to Spain, Kenya, Alaska, Russia and Australia. Makes sense that he was a geography teacher.

      But no matter where he went, he carried his roots with him, that grounded sense of gratitude that comes from growing up in a small Manitoba town.

      Herold was immensely proud of his daughters Laurie and Michelle and loved deeply by his grand­children. They knew him as Bapa. Bapa was the steady, gentle voice at the heart of every family gathering.

      To Herold's family: please know that his legacy reaches far beyond your circle; his teaching shaped minds; his public service shaped com­mu­nities; and his music lifted spirits across this province.

      Those of us who serve here today could learn much from Herold Driedger. We can learn that respect is not weakness, that com­pro­mise is not failure and that service is not about recog­nition; it's about respon­si­bility.

      He showed that you can lead with both conviction and kindness, that you can take your work seriously without ever taking yourself too seriously and that when you listen, truly listen, you can build bridges where others see walls.

      Herold's life reminds us that public service at its best is an act of generosity. Whether in the classroom, in this Chamber or on a stage, he gave himself fully to whatever he did.

      Today we don't just mourn his passing, we cele­brate a life well lived, a life that educated, inspired and connected, a life that proved one person, guided by heart and principle, can make an extra­ordin­ary difference.

      So to Herold: thank you. Thank you for your decades of service, for your songs, your stories, your laughter and, most of all, the example that you set. Thank you for showing us that grace and decency never go out of style.

      Rest in peace, Herold Driedger. You will be missed, but your voice, your values and your spirit will live on in every student you taught, every colleague you inspired and every Manitoban who believes that kind­ness and service still matter.

Mr. Doyle Piwniuk (Turtle Mountain): I'm honoured–to here–to represent the op­posi­tion party here on the con­dol­ences of Herold Driedger, and my con­dol­ences go out to the family of Herold and the commit­ment that he made to this Legislature and the work that he did on my con­dol­ences. And I want to thank you for the time that he–you guys had to give up for him to be here, and we really ap­pre­ciate that.

      Herold was born on March 28, 1942, and raised in Grunthal, Manitoba, attended teachers' college, bachelor of arts in edu­ca­tion and–at uni­ver­sity college, and the masters of arts in geography at the Uni­ver­sity of Manitoba. He taught geography and social studies in Sisler High School, Gordon Bell High School and General Wolfe School for 30 years, from 1970 to 2000.

      He was elected as a Liberal for Niakwa con­stit­uency in 1988's election, and that, I believe, is the year that there was other 20 more Liberal MLAs in that time–

An Honourable Member: Nineteen.

Mr. Piwniuk: Nineteen.

      Okay, so the other thing is Herold Driedger was a man whose life was defined in dedi­cation to his family, to edu­ca­tion, to public service and to our com­mu­nity. Herold's passion was learning to lead him to pursue both bachelors and the masters of arts degree, after which he embarked in the distinguished 30‑year career as a teacher in the Winnipeg No. 1 school division from 1970 to 2000, and he taught geography and social studies, again, at those schools, and inspiring gen­era­tions of students with love of knowledge and his commit­ment to edu­ca­tion.

      In 1988, Herold was elected as the Liberal Mem­ber of the Legis­lative Assembly for Niakwa, later known as Seine River. Defeating a sitting Cabinet minister during the landmark election, he saw his party rise from one to 20 seats. His time in the Chamber reflected his deep belief in the value of civic partici­pation and public service.

      In retirement, Herold remained active and engaged, contributing to–his time and energy to the Canadian Part­ner­ship Against Cancer and the George and Fay Yee Centre for Healthcare Innovation, strategies and patient‑oriented research in primary health care. Those–though these roles, he worked to improve the patient experiences within the health‑care system.

      He also was an active member of the Association of Former Manitoba Members of the Legis­lative Assembly. And I remember as a Deputy, I actually hosted one of the com­mit­tees because the Speaker couldn't make it when I was Deputy Speaker, and I had a chance to meet Herold when we had a luncheon, when we had those general luncheons.

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      Again, he was profound to civic dialogue, believing the importance of reflecting different viewpoints rather than dismissing them.

      Alongside his love of books, music held a special place in Herold's life. His–he sang in a–choirs and musical productions. In 1995 he joined the Winnipeg Golden Chordsmen Barbershop quartet, later known as the River City Sound. He also enjoyed performing with various quartets, but found joy singing with Rob Smith, Larry Hunter and Paul Bullock as part of Harlequin. Together they celebrated 25 years of music on September 23, which a special concert for family and friends.

      Herold's enthusiasm and passion left a lasting impression on those around him and Manitobans. Further­more, hon­our­able Herold Driedger pursued a wide range of personal passions. He was an avid golfer, a keen sailor and a–possessed an adventurous spirit with a profound love of travel, and, of course, my colleague from Seine River explained all the dif­ferent countries that he went to, which was amazing.

      Again, he made a sig­ni­fi­cant con­tri­bu­tion to the province through his dedi­cation service as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly, where he worked tirelessly to advance a good–public good and strength com­mu­nities across the province. Herold Driedger's life was one of service, learning, music and love. He touched the lives of students, colleagues, con­stit­uents and com­mu­nity members alike, and his con­tri­bu­tions will long be remembered.

      On behalf of this House, I extend my deepest con­dol­ences to the family, friends and loved ones. May they find comfort in the legacy he leaves behind, in his knowledge, and the life made Manitoba a better place.

      Thank you.

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): I rise this afternoon to speak in tribute of Herold Driedger, who passed away in October 2024.

      To his partner, June Harris; his daughters Michelle and Laurie Driedger; his granddaughters Vanessa Morrison, Sydney and Aiden Driedger; his step­daughter Andrea Leader; his sister Melita and her family Dave and John Ennis, who have all joined us here today; and to all of his loving family, I extend my heartfelt con­dol­ences.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, due no doubt to the entre­preneurial spirit of his parents, Herold was deeply committed to public service, with a strong desire to advance the common good. In 1988 he ran and won as a Manitoba Liberal in the con­stit­uency of Niakwa, under the leadership of Sharon Carstairs.

      It was an im­por­tant prov­incial election, and he sat in the official op­posi­tion benches for the next two  years. Herold worked alongside my father, Kevin Lamoureux, when he was the MLA for Inkster, as well as my friend Harold Taylor, who has joined us here today in the loges, as the MLA for Wolseley.

      Interestingly, he served opposite his cousin, Albert Driedger, who served as Minister of Gov­ern­ment Services and Minister of Highways and Trans­por­tation, which I'm sure got very interesting at times.

      And like many of us here, he found for the most part the ex­per­ience being an MLA very enriching.

      His first wife, Lorraine Driedger, who passed away in 2014, was Red River Métis, and their children are proud citizens within the Red River–or within Manitoba Métis Federation. He is remembered as a true gentleman and a true leader in advancing Indigenous language revitalization.

      Now, Hon­our­able Speaker, ahead of his time, he sought funding for improving the lives of rural Indigenous com­mu­nities and helping to define and develop self‑governing in­sti­tutions for Indigenous people in areas of child and family services, economic dev­elop­ment, edu­ca­tion and more. He really worked towards advancing connection to ancestry with one's own heritage and spirituality.

      In 1988, he intro­duced a private member's reso­lu­tion relating to long‑standing issues that did not favour the Port of Churchill for shipping grain, barley and other crops and goods through the port. This was to get the Province to lobby the gov­ern­ment for guaranteed allotments of the grain to be shipped over­seas through Churchill from Manitoba, Saskatchewan and northwestern Ontario, instead of using ports of Vancouver and the St. Lawrence who had similar guarantees.

      The port was originally conceived as a great nation-building enterprise, a more direct route to Europe and a strategic gateway for Canada's claim to the Arctic. And it was felt that the federal gov­ern­ment was failing it and therefore failing Manitoba and its citizens.

      After discussion, modifications and amend­ments, it was voted on and passed, which we all know is a very difficult task to do when you're in op­posi­tion. And today, after many years of lobbying, upheaval, closures and hope, we are finally realizing the value of the port and what it means to have our province–to our province's economy. Again, Herold was way ahead of his time.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Herold worked hard as critic for northern and Indigenous affairs and for Natural Resources, and chaired, among others, the Standing Com­mit­tee on Public Accounts during his time in office. He worked so hard for his con­stit­uents and for the people of Manitoba.

      After leaving politics, he became part of the Association of Former Manitoba Members of the Legis­lative Assembly and, through their activities, worked to improve civil society discourse through respect for ideas and not derision when engaging with someone holding different views, some­thing my col­leagues before me have discussed as well. It's a beautiful reputation to have.

      And before politics, Hon­our­able Speaker, and public life, Herold worked as a teacher, teaching geography and social studies at Sisler High school, the high school that I actually went to and I know at least one of my other colleagues here in the House attended as well. He also taught at Gordon Bell and at General Wolfe School. He directed many school musicals during his tenure and is quite known for them.

      In addition to his love of travel, golfing, reading and sailing, singing was most joyful for him. He sang in churches, choirs, musical productions and barber­shop choruses. Singing truly was his passion. And in 1995, he joined the Winnipeg Golden Chordsmen barbershop chorus which was later renamed River City Sound when women joined their voices to the group.

      One of the women who joined was June's daughter Andrea. One specific quartet called Harlequin were together for 25 years. They competed internationally and earned the title of quartet of the year 18 times. And in September of 2023, they celebrated with a special concert they performed for friends and family. His legacy, passion and true talent inspired many others to join the chorus over the years.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Herold was also a member of the Canadian Part­ner­ship Against Cancer Cor­por­ation, Canadian prostate cancer network and the Manitoba prostate cancer network, where he sat on the executive com­mit­tee as the director of political action. Such networks do the im­por­tant work of provi­ding support and raising awareness for the patients and their families with cancer diagnosis. He understood first‑hand the need to support and improve patients' journeys through the health‑care system.

      In closing, Hon­our­able Speaker, Herold's family, passion towards public service, joy in life, caring and drive gave him a full life, positively affecting others while helping them and inspiring them all along the way: a strong legacy that we can all strive to have.

      Thank you.

The Speaker: Prior to putting the question on the con­dol­ence motion, I draw members' attention to the public gallery where the family of Herold Driedger is. The–his daughters, Laurie Driedger and Michelle Driedger; grandchildren Sydney Driedger, Aiden Driedger and Vanessa Driedger Morrison; wife June Harris; sister Melita Ennis and her husband–Herold's son in law–Dave Ennis and their son–nephew to Herold–John Ennis.

      Welcome.

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      So the question before the House is that this House convey to the family of the late Herold Driedger, who served as a Member of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, its sincerest sympathy in their bereavement and its ap­pre­cia­tion of his devotion to duty in a useful life of active com­mu­nity and public service, and that the Speaker be requested to forward a copy of this reso­lu­tion to the family.

      And I would ask members to please rise and remain standing to indicate their support for the motion.

A moment of silence was observed.

The Speaker: Thank you.

      The motion is accordingly passed.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

(Continued)

Petitions

The Speaker: And now we will go to petitions.

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Mr. Wayne Balcaen (Brandon West): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1)  On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

Mr. Tyler Blashko, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair

      (2) There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from this citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      The Winnipeg Police Service's, WPS, in­vesti­gation provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standard and recom­mended charges be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutors declined to pro­secute the accomplice.

      The family of Jordyn Reimer has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute to be reviewed in­de­pen­dently.

      As recently as 2022, there is precedent for criminal files of decisions to not prosecute with–or sorry, not to proceed with prosecution to extra‑prov­incial de­part­ments for justice for review. This was done in the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a reversal in the decision to not prosecute, and charges were laid.

      (7) An out-of-province review is supported by MADD Canada, MADD Manitoba, and Manitobans.

      (8) The family has exhausted every avenue within the existing system, and, in the absence of prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an in­de­pen­dent out-of-province review.

      (9) In December of 2024, Winnipeg Police Service reported an alarming number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. And extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to those who engage in overt actions to facilitate impaired driving save–will save lives.

      Manitoba deserves to have the con­fi­dence in the provincial government and the justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, this petition signed by Karly Melville, Madeline Melville, Kirk Melville and many, many other fine Manitobans.

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): I wish to present the following petition. The background of this petition is as follows:

      On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      (2) There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from the citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      (4) The Winnipeg Police Service investigation provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standard and recommended charges to be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutors declined to prosecute the accomplice.

      (5) The family of Jordyn Reimer has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute be reviewed independently.

      (6) As recent as 2022, there is precedent to refer criminal files of decisions to not proceed with prosecution to extra provincial departments of justice for review. That was done with the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a reversal in the decision to not prosecute, and charges were laid.

      (7) An out-of-province review is supported by MADD Canada, MADD Manitoba and by Manitobans.

      (8) The family has exhausted every avenue within the existing systems, and, in the absence of a prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an inde­pen­dent out-of-province review.

      (9) In December 2024, the WPS reported an alarming number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. Extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to those who engage in an–overt actions to facilitate impaired driving will save lives.

      (10) Manitobans deserve to have confidence in the provincial government and justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

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      This is signed by Elsie Serpa, Chad Baxter, Andrew Ronald and many, many more Manitobans.

      Thank you, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker.

Prov­incial Trunk Highway 45

Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      These are the reasons for this petition:

      (1) Upgrading Provincial Trunk Highway 45 will accelerate economic development as it will enhance connectivity, facilitate efficient transportation and pro­mote economic growth in the region.

      (2) Economic development will be further enhanced as improved road infrastructure attracts businesses, encourages investment and creates job opportunities.

      (3) Roads meeting the Roads and Transportation Association of Canada, RTAC, standards improve both safety and efficiency, as they can handle heavier loads, reducing the number of trips required for goods transportation.

      (4) Safer roads further benefit both commuters and commercial vehicles, minimizing accidents and damage.

      (5) Upgrading to RTAC standards ensures resilience to challenges caused by climate change, such as thawing and flooding, which negatively impact road conditions.

      (6) Efficient transportation networks contribute to Manitoba's economic competitiveness, as upgraded roads support interprovincial and international goods movement, benefiting both trade and commerce.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure to take the necessary steps to upgrade Provincial Trunk Highway 45 from Russell to Provincial Trunk Highway 10 to meet RTAC standards.

      This petition is signed Doug Cook, Kim Benden, Johnnie Cook and many, many other Manitobans.

      Thank you.

Teaching Certification

Mr. Doyle Piwniuk (Turtle Mountain): Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground of this petition is as follows:

      (1) Ensuring that teachers have a robust back­ground in the subjects they teach, it is essential for maintain high-quality edu­ca­tion and fostering well-rounded learning experiences for all Manitoban students.

      (2) The recent amend­ments to the prov­incial–Province of Manitoba Teaching Certificates and Quali­fi­ca­tions Regula­tion under The Edu­ca­tion Administration Act have significantly lowered the standards for subject area of expertise required by teacher certification.

      (3) These amend­ments eliminate all subject-area require­ments for teacher certification, including major and minor teachable subjects and subject-specific require­ments for early/middle years streams.

      (4) Spe­cific­ally, the amend­ment removes–removed: the senior years credit require­ments in an approved teachable major and minor; early middle years credit require­ments in the approved teachable major and minor; and early middle years credit requirements for specific subjects, including: math; physical or–physics or biology science; English or French; history or geography.

      (5) The key stake­holders, such as parents, post-secondary educators outside the facility of edu­ca­tion and the business partners, were not consulted about the changes.

      (6) The removed of subject-specific require­ments undermines the edu­ca­tional quality of Manitoba schools by permitting teachers to enter the classroom without sig­ni­fi­cant–sufficient training in core academic areas, thereby compromising the education that Manitoba students receive.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning to reserve recent amendments to the Teaching Certificates and Qualifications Regula­tion that weaken subject-areas required for teacher certification and to reinstate teachable majors and minors and early/middle-years requirements which are essential for ensuring teachers have strong knowledge in core subject areas.

      (2) To urge the provincial government to address teacher shortages through alternative measures that uphold rigorous subject-area standards, which are critical for providing quality education to all Manitoba students.

      This has been signed by Darryll Bernish [phonetic], Glenn Vercaigne, Scott Sambrook and many other Manitobans.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Mr. Kelvin Goertzen (Steinbach): I wish to present the following petition to the Manitoba Legislative Assembly.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of the clinical and preventative services plan, construction for the new Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding community would greatly benefit from added diagnostic machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and computer-generated radio waves to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on the No. 1 Highway in the Southern Health/Santé Sud Health Authority. Currently, there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

      (4) An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher service and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and Long Plain First Nations reserves. Indigenous peoples in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity to the new Portage regional health facility is the Southport airport. This aerodrome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI imaging services.

      (7) The average wait times for Manitobans to receive an MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

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      And, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition is signed by Jim Carefoot [phonetic], Patricia Hull, Kale Black and many other fine Manitobans.

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The Deputy Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Selkirk (Mr. Perchotte).

An Honourable Member: I wish to present the following petition–[interjection]

An Honourable Member: Selkirk.

An Honourable Member: Oh, sorry.

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): We'll try that again.

      To the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, I wish to present the following petition.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1)  On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      (2) There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired–

The Deputy Speaker: Order.

      We just request that the member get a headset, and we will return to you at that point to present your petition.

      So I will call on the member for La Vérendrye.

Green Valley School Expansion

Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) The residents of La Vérendrye and other areas around Manitoba are extremely frustrated and concerned by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment's decision to cancel the school expansion project for Green Valley School in Grunthal.

      (2) In 2021, the PC prov­incial gov­ern­ment com­mitted funding to expand Green Valley School for a new gymnasium and classrooms.

      (3) The school is so overcrowded that three mobile classrooms were added to alleviate overcrowding in classrooms.

      (4) In order for construction to begin, the school removed all three portable classrooms, leaving Green Valley in a further critical state of overcrowding.

      (5) As a result of overcrowding, parents are choosing to home-school their children due to safety concerns and the challenges associated with overcrowding.

      (6) The current Premier of Manitoba and the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning have said they are committed to investing in education.

      (7) The concerns of residents of La Vérendrye and the surrounding area are being ignored by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment.

      (8) The lack of space in the school is affecting quality of edu­ca­tion and extracurricular activities for students.

      (9) The minister and Premier have a duty to respond to the edu­ca­tional needs of children and youth identified by rural com­mu­nities.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning to imme­diately bring back the three portable classrooms to help alleviate the stress and overcrowding classrooms.

      (2) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to reinstate the expansion project for Green Valley School.

      This petition has been signed by Tristan Penner, Catherine Robertson, Rob Rewley [phonetic] and many, many other Manitobans.

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake-Gimli): I wish to present the following petition.

      To the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, the background to this petition is as follows:

      (1)  On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      (2) There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from this citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      (4) The Winnipeg Police Service's, WPS, in­vesti­gation provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standard and recom­mended charges be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutors declined to prosecute the accomplice.

      (5) The family of Jordyn Reimer was called for the prosecution of the accomplice–sorry, has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute be reviewed in­de­pen­dently.

      (6) As recently as 2022, there is precedent to refer criminal files of decisions to not proceed with prosecution to extra‑prov­incial de­part­ments of justice for review. This was done with the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a reversal in the decision to not prosecute, and charges were laid.

      (7) An out-of-province review is supported by MADD Canada, MADD Manitoba, and by Manitobans.

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      (8) The family has exhausted every avenue within the existing system, and, in the absence of a prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an independent out-of-province review.

      (9) In December 2024, the WPS reported an alarming number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. Extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to those who engage in overt actions to facilitate impaired driving will save lives.

      (10) Manitobans deserve to have confidence in the provincial government and justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

      This petition has been signed by Alison Rostek, Adam Jackson, Tammy Jackson and many, many other fine Manitobans.

The Deputy Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Selkirk. You'll have to unmute yourself.

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): Okay, fourth try, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, we're good to go.

      I wish to present to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba the following petition.

      To the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, the background to this petition is as follows:

      (1)  On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      (2) They are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from this citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      (4) The Winnipeg Police Service's, WPS, investi­ga­tion provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standard and recommended charges be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutors declined to prosecute the accomplice.

      (5) The family of Jordyn Reimer has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute be reviewed independently.

      (6) As recently as 2022, there is precedent to refer criminal files of decisions to not proceed with pro­secution to extra-provincial departments of justice for review. This was done with the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a reversal in the decision to not prosecute, and charges were laid.

      (7) An out-of-province review is supported by Mothers Against Drunk Driving Canada, Mothers Against Drunk Driving Manitoba and by Manitobans.

      (8) The family has exhausted every avenue within the existing system, and, in the absence of a prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an in­de­pen­dent out-of-province review.

      (9) In December of 2024, the Winnipeg Police Service reported an alarming number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. Extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to those who engage in overt actions to facilitate impaired driving will save lives.

      (10) Manitobans deserve to have con­fi­dence in the prov­incial gov­ern­ment and justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

      Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition has been signed by Jane MacLatchy, Mitch Beaudoin, Frank Klassen and many, many more Manitobans.

      Thank you.

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1)  On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      (2) There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from this citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      (4) The Winnipeg Police Service's, WPS, in­vesti­gation provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standard and recom­mended charges to be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutors declined to prosecute the accomplice.

      (5) The family of Jordyn Reimer has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute be reviewed in­de­pen­dently.

      (6) As recently as 2022, there is precedent to refer criminal files of decisions to not proceed with prosecution to extra‑prov­incial de­part­ments of justice for review. This was done by–sorry–this was done with the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a reversal in the decision to not prosecute, and charges were laid.

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      (7) An out-of-province review is supported by MADD Canada, MADD Manitoba and by Manitobans.

      (8) The family has exhausted every avenue within the system–within the existing system, and, in the absence of a prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an in­de­pen­dent out-of-province review.

      (9) In December 2024, the WPS reported an alarm­ing number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. Extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to those who engage in overt actions to facilitate impaired driving will save lives.

      (10) Manitoba deserves to have con­fi­dence in the prov­incial gov­ern­ment and justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to order–sorry, I'm going to go back.

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

      Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition was signed by many, many Manitobans, such as Tara Perchaluk, Jenilyn Rambibo [phonetic]–Ramilo and Cassia Luther Ruban and many, many, many other Manitobans.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Mr. Trevor King (Lakeside): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground of this–to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of the clinical and preventative services plan, construction for the new Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding community would greatly benefit from added diagnostic machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and computer-generated radio waves to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on the No. 1 Highway in the Southern Health authority. Currently there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

      (4) An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher service and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and the Long Plain First Nations reserves. Excuse me. Indigenous peoples in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health authority–health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity to the new Portage regional health facility is the Southport airport. This aerodrome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI imaging services.

      (7) The average wait times for Manitobans to receive an M-I-R–MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

      This petition has been signed by Ashley Hewins, Merissa Rogers, Loralee Morton and many, many Manitobans.

      Thank you.

Teaching Certification

Mr. Wayne Ewasko (Lac du Bonnet): Good afternoon, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker.

      I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly, and the back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Ensuring that teachers have a robust back­ground in the subjects they teach is essential for maintaining high-quality edu­ca­tion and fostering well-rounded learning experiences for all Manitoba students.

      (2) The recent amend­ments by the Province of Manitoba to the Teaching Certificates and Quali­fi­ca­tions Regula­tion under The Edu­ca­tion Administration Act have significantly lowered the standards for subject-area expertise required for teacher certification.

      (3) These amend­ments eliminated all subject-area require­ments for teacher certification, including major and minor schedule subjects and subject-specific require­ments for early/middle-years streams.

      (4) Spe­cific­ally, the amend­ments removed, bullet point: senior years credit require­ments in an approved teachable major and minor; second bullet point: early/middle-years credit require­ments in an approved teachable major and minor; and, third bullet point: early/middle-years credit requirements for specific subjects, including: math; physical or biological science; English or French; and history and/or geography.

      (5) Key stake­holders, such as parents, post-secondary educators outside the faculties of edu­ca­tion and busi­ness partners, were not consulted about the changes.

      (6) The removal of subject-specific require­ments undermines the edu­ca­tional quality in Manitoba schools by permitting teachers to enter the classroom without sufficient training in core academic areas, thereby compromising the edu­ca­tion that Manitoba students receive.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning to reverse recent amend­ments to the Teaching Certificates and Quali­fi­ca­tions Regula­tion that weaken subject-area require­ments for teacher certification and to reinstate teachable majors and minors and early/middle-years require­ments which are essential for ensuring teachers have strong knowledge to core subject areas.

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      (2) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to address teacher shortages through alter­na­tive measures that uphold rigorous subject-area standards, which are critical for provi­ding quality edu­ca­tion to all Manitoba students.

      Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition is signed by Terry Nepiuk [phonetic], Marilyn Ruta, Tim Staska and many, many more fine Manitobans.

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Mrs. Carrie Hiebert (Morden-Winkler): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background of this petition is as follows:

      (1)  On May 1, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 20 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      (2) There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      (3) A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he was–he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from the citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      (4) The Winnipeg Police Service in­vesti­gation provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standards and recom­mended charges be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutor declined the–to prosecute the accomplice.

      (5) The family of Jordyn Reimer has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute be reviewed in­de­pen­dently.

      (6) As recently as 2022, there is precedent to refer criminal files of decisions to not proceed with prosecution to extra‑prov­incial de­part­ments of justice for review. This was done with the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a reversal in the decision not to prosecute to charges that were laid.

      (7) An out-of-province review is supported by MADD Canada, MADD Manitoba and by Manitobans.

      (8) The family has exhausted every avenue within the existing system, and in the absence of a prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an in­de­pen­dent out-of-province review.

      (9) In December 2024, the Winnipeg Police Service reported an alarming number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. Extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to whose–to those who engage in overt actions to facilitate impaired driving will save lives.

      (10) Manitobans deserve to have con­fi­dence in the prov­incial gov­ern­ment and justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

      This petition has been signed by Peter Ens, Erick Casseland [phonetic], Lynn Fallis-Kurz and many, many other Manitobans.

MLA Bob Lagassé (Dawson Trail): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      On May 1st, 2022, Jordyn Reimer, 24 years of age, was killed by an impaired driver while she was acting as a designated driver.

      There are two people legally culpable for her death: the impaired driver and the accomplice. The driver was charged, but the second criminal, the accomplice, has not been held accountable.

      A concerned citizen took the keys from the impaired driver earlier in the evening to ensure he could not drive impaired. The accomplice retrieved the keys from this citizen under false pretenses and knowingly provided the impaired driver with access to the vehicle.

      The Winnipeg Police Service, WPS, in­vesti­gation provided adequate evidence to meet the charging standards and recom­mended charges be laid against the accomplice. The Crown prosecutors declined to prosecute the accomplice.

      The family of Jordyn Reimer has called for the prosecution of the accomplice and that the decision to not prosecute be reviewed in­de­pen­dently.

      As recently as 2022, there is precedent to refer criminal files of decisions to not proceed with prosecution to extra‑prov­incial de­part­ments of justice for review. This was done with the Peter Nygård file, which ultimately led to a out-of-province review–sorry.

      An out-of-province review is supported by MADD Canada, MADD Manitoba, and by Manitobans.

      The family has exhausted every avenue within the existing system, and, in the absence of a prescribed process when a disagreement exists on charging standards, the only option is to request an in­de­pen­dent out-of-province review.

      In December 2024, the Winnipeg police reported an alarming number of impaired drivers in the holiday Check Stop program. Extending criminal culpability beyond the driver to those who engage in overt actions to facilitate impaired driving will save lives.

      Manitobans deserve to have con­fi­dence in the pro­­v­incial gov­ern­ment and justice systems to make decisions that achieve true justice for victims and their families.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly as Manitoba–as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to order an out-of-province review of the prosecutor's decision to not prosecute the accomplice in the death of Jordyn Reimer.

      This petition has been signed by many Manitobans.

Rural Com­mu­nity Policing Services

Ms. Jodie Byram (Agassiz): Hon­our­able Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      All–(1) All Manitobans deserve to feel safe in their homes and com­mu­nities.

      (2) Through­out Manitoba, rural com­mu­nities are seeing dramatic increases in criminal activities targeting individuals and property, which has eroded their sense of safety.

      (3) Through com­mu­nities–though communities pay taxes for RCMP coverage, many have lost local policing as RCMP detachments consolidate. This situation is unacceptable to com­mu­nities who expect a level of service and police pro­tec­tion.

      (4) The lack of com­mu­nity policing has led to many Manitobans losing faith in the rule of law and the availability of emergency services when they are needed.

      (5) The prov­incial gov­ern­ment has a respon­si­bility to act and ensure that com­mu­nities receive adequate service and coverage from police resources.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to imme­diately work with the RCMP to restore–

The Deputy Speaker: Order, please.

      The hour being 5 p.m., as the member has not completed reading their petition, it is not deemed to have been received by the House and the member will need to present it again at a future sitting of the House.

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

The Deputy Speaker: Order.

      The hour being 5 p.m., this House is adjourned and stands adjourned until Monday, October 27, at 1:30 p.m.


 

 


LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Thursday, October 16, 2025

CONTENTS


Vol. 75b

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Reports

Moyes 3079

Members' Statements

Marcia Pavao

Sandhu  3079

Joseph Fourre

Bereza  3079

Introduction of Bills

Bill 50–The Constitutional Questions Amendment Act

Kinew   3080

Members' Statements

(Continued)

Summer in the City Recreation Camps

Marcelino  3080

Linden Woods Fall Classic

Khan  3081

Summer Activities in Transcona Constituency

Corbett 3081

Oral Questions

Manitoba's Trade Representative in Washington

Khan  3082

Kinew   3082

MRI Wait Times

Khan  3084

Kinew   3084

Manitoba Jobs Agreement

Khan  3084

Kinew   3084

Premier and Cabinet Ministers

Khan  3084

Kinew   3085

Youth Unemployment Rate

Stone  3085

Sala  3085

Manitoba Jobs Agreement

Guenter 3086

Sandhu  3086

Kinew   3087

Crime in Swan Valley Area

Balcaen  3087

Schmidt 3087

Grocery Prices and Cost of Living Concerns

Schuler 3088

Sandhu  3088

Kinew   3089

Provincial Nominee Program

Lamoureux  3089

Marcelino  3089

Former Premier Stefanson

Oxenham   3090

Schmidt 3090

Stephens Apartment Vacancies

Bereza  3090

Smith  3090

Kinew   3090

ORDERS OF THE DAY

(Continued)

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Motions of Condolence

Harry Schellenberg

Schmidt 3091

Schuler 3093

Schott 3095

Gérard Lécuyer

Loiselle  3097

Nesbitt 3100

Simard  3102

Herold Driedger

Cross 3104

Piwniuk  3106

Lamoureux  3107

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

(Continued)

Petitions

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Balcaen  3108

Bereza  3109

Provincial Trunk Highway 45

Wowchuk  3110

Teaching Certification

Piwniuk  3110

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Goertzen  3111

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Perchotte  3111

Green Valley School Expansion

Narth  3112

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Johnson  3112

Perchotte  3113

Khan  3113

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

King  3114

Teaching Certification

Ewasko  3115

Death of Jordyn Reimer–Judicial Review Request

Hiebert 3115

Lagassé  3116

Rural Community Policing Services

Byram   3116