LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Wednesday, October 15, 2025


The House met at 1:30 p.m.

The Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom, know it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen.

      We acknowledge that we are gathered on Treaty 1 territory and that Manitoba is located on the treaty territories and ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg, Anishininewuk, Dakota Oyate, Denesuline and Nehethowuk nations. We acknowledge Manitoba is located on the Homeland of the Red River Métis. We acknowledge northern Manitoba includes lands that were and are the ancestral lands of the Inuit. We respect the spirit and intent of treaties and treaty making and remain committed to working in partner­ship with First Nations, Inuit and Métis people in the spirit of truth, reconciliation and collaboration.

      Please be seated.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

The Speaker: Intro­duction of bills? Com­mit­tee reports?

Tabling of Reports

The Speaker: I am tabling a revised version of the Report of Amounts Paid or Payable to Members of the Assembly for the Year Ended March 31, 2025. Copies of the report will be sent to members directly by email.

      Thank you.

Hon. Adrien Sala (Acting Minister of Health, Seniors and Long‑Term Care): Hon­our­able Speaker, I am pleased to table the annual report of the De­part­ment of Health, Seniors and Long‑Term Care for the fiscal year '24‑25.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Minister of Finance.

Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): I am  pleased to table the following reports for the '24‑25 fiscal year: the annual report for Manitoba Finance; the annual report for the Public Service Com­mis­sion; the Manitoba Enabling Ap­pro­priations, Tax Credits and Public Debt Annual Report; Employee Pensions and Other Costs Annual Report; the annual report for the Public Utilities Board; Manitoba Financial Services Agency Annual Report; Manitoba Hydro‑Electric Board annual report; the Freedom of Infor­ma­tion and Pro­tec­tion of Privacy Act report; and the actuarial valuation report for the Civil Service Superannuation Fund.

The Speaker: No further reports?

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Acting Minister of Justice and Attorney General): I am pleased to table the following reports: the 2024 annual report for Manitoba Public Insurance; the 2024 Annual Report for the Law En­force­ment Review Agency; the 2024‑25 annual report for Legal Aid Manitoba; the '24‑25 annual report for the Manitoba Law Foundation; the '24‑25 annual report for the Manitoba Law Reform Com­mis­sion; the '24‑25 annual report for the Vehicle Impoundment Registry; and finally, the '25–sorry, the 2025 annual report for Manitoba Justice.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Hon. Nahanni Fontaine (Minister of Families): I'm pleased to table the following report: annual report of Manitoba Families for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025.

Hon. Bernadette Smith (Minister of Housing, Addictions and Homelessness): I'm pleased to table the annual report for '24‑25 for Manitoba Housing, Addictions and Homelessness.

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): I am pleased to table the following reports: the '24‑25 annual report of the De­part­ment of Manitoba Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning; and the 2024 annual report for the Teachers' Retirement Allowances Fund.

      Thank you.

 

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Minister of Economic Dev­elop­ment, Invest­ment, Trade and Natural Resources.

Hon. Jamie Moses (Minister of Business, Mining, Trade and Job Creation): I'm pleased to table the following annual reports, for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025: the annual report for Busi­ness, Mining, Trade and Job Creation; the annual report for Ap­prentice­ship and Certification Board; and the annual report for Manitoba Dev­elop­ment Cor­por­ation.

Hon. Lisa Naylor (Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure): I'm pleased to table the annual reports for the De­part­ment of Manitoba Trans­por­tation and Infra­structure for the fiscal year of 2024‑25.

      Thank you.

Hon. Renée Cable (Acting Minister of Labour and Immigration): I'm pleased to table the Manitoba Labour and Immigration annual report for the year ended March 31, 2025.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Minister of Advanced Edu­ca­tion and Training.

Hon. Renée Cable (Minister of Advanced Education and Training): I'm pleased to table the annual report for the De­part­ment of Advanced Edu­ca­tion and Training for the fiscal year of 2024‑25.

 I am also pleased to table the annual reports for the year ending March 31, 2025, for Brandon Uni­ver­sity, Red River Com­mu­nity College Polytechnic, Uni­ver­sity College of the North, Université de Saint‑Boniface, Uni­ver­sity of Manitoba and Uni­ver­sity of Winnipeg.

Hon. Mike Moyes (Minister of Environment and Climate Change): I am pleased to table the annual report for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025, for the De­part­ment of Environ­ment and Climate Change.

Hon. Glen Simard (Acting Minister of Agriculture): Hon­our­able Speaker, it is my pleasure to table the following reports: the annual report for the Manitoba–oh–yes, Manitoba Agri­cul­ture for fiscal year March 31, 2025, and the Annual Report for the Manitoba Agri­cul­ture Services Cor­por­ation for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Minister of Munici­pal and Northern Relations.

Hon. Glen Simard (Minister of Municipal and Northern Relations): I'd like to table the following reports: the first for the Manitoba–or Munici­pal and Northern Relations, second for Manitoba Liquor & Lotteries and the third for the Manitoba Water Services Board.

Hon. Mintu Sandhu (Minister of Public Service Delivery): I'm pleased to table the following annual reports for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025: the De­part­ment of Public Service Delivery; the Vehicle and Equipment Manage­ment Agency; the Materials Dis­tri­bu­tion Agency; the Entrepreneurship Manitoba; the Public Guardian trustee special operating agency; the Manitoba Resi­den­tial Tenancies Com­mis­sion; and the Automobile Injury Compensation Appeals Commis­sion.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Hon. Nellie Kennedy (Minister of Sport, Culture, Heritage and Tourism): I am pleased to table the following annual reports for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2025: the annual report for the De­part­ment of Sport, Culture, Heritage and Tourism; and the annual report for Travel Manitoba.

      Thank you.

Hon. Mike Moroz (Minister of Innovation and New Technology): I'm pleased to table the first‑ever report for the Manitoba Innovation and New Tech­no­lo­gy for the fiscal period ending March 31, 2025.

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Hon. Ian Bushie (Minister of Natural Resources and Indigenous Futures): I'm pleased to table the 2024‑2025 annual report from Natural Resources and Indigenous Futures.

The Speaker: No more tabling of reports?

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: Before we move on, I have some guests I'd like to intro­duce. Back in the seating–oh, can't talk. Sitting in the loge to my left, we have James Teitsma, former member for Radisson.

      Welcome.

      I'd like to draw attention of all hon­our­able mem­bers to the public gallery where we have seated with us today from the RM of Headingley, CAO Sandra Miller; Councillor Glen Reimer; dev­elop­ment officer, Robert Drummond.

      And in the Speaker's loge to my left is Mavis Taillieu, former MLA for Morris, and they are guests of the honourable member for Roblin (Mrs. Cook).

      On behalf of all hon­our­able members, we welcome you here today.

Ministerial Statements

Latin American Heritage Month

Hon. Nellie Kennedy (Minister of Sport, Culture, Heritage and Tourism): Today I rise to recognize and celebrate Latin American Heritage Month.

      Latin American Heritage Month, first proclaimed federally in 2018, is an opportunity to celebrate the culture and heritage of over 20 countries that stretch from Mexico to the tip of South America. Each terri­tory has rich traditions and diverse people that reflect its complex history.

      This is more than a symbolic moment; it reflects our province's ongoing commitment to diversity, inclusion and mutual respect.

Honourable Speaker, as artists, business owners, educators, health‑care workers and scientists, Latin American Manitobans make significant contributions to the success of our province.

      As these communities continue to expand, volun­teer‑led, non‑profit organizations play a vital role in supporting their increasingly diverse members by promoting, sharing and preserving the cultures, traditions and languages of their members.

      We believe that diversity is not just something to be acknowledged. It must be actively celebrated, supported and reflected in the policies we create and the communities we build.

      The resolve to preserve Latin American culture in our province is strong and proud. As the Minister of Sport, Culture, Heritage and Tourism, it is my great pleasure and privilege to support these efforts.

      Multiculturalism has become a cornerstone of Manitoba's identity. By championing our diversity, Manitoba will remain open to multiple perspectives, ideas and initiatives, which in turn allows our province to grow. Manitobans continue to hold space for unique experiences, while identifying and cele­brating our shared values.

      It reminds us of the ongoing work needed to elevate Latin American voices, dismantle systemic barriers and ensure that every Manitoban feels seen, valued and heard.

      And so today let's honour the past, celebrate the present and look forward to a more inclusive future.

      I'd like to draw everyone's attention to the folks joining us here in the gallery today. We have Soraya Chamorro, Fernanda and Sion Vallejo, Roberto Garcia, Aline Tescucano and the consul general and vice‑consul general of El Salvador in Manitoba, Fernando Aguilar and Carlos Velasco.

      And so, in closing, Hon­our­able Speaker, I'd like to wish everyone a very happy Latin American Heritage Month. Let's continue to honour the stories, traditions and contributions that bring our com­munities together.

      Thank you.

Ms. Jodie Byram (Agassiz): I would like to also welcome the guests here as we celebrate Latin American Heritage Month.

      Welcome to the Manitoba Legislature.

      This October, I am proud to celebrate Latin American Heritage Month, which itself encompasses a wide 'ofrray' of cultures, traditions and peoples.

      We in this House have the honour of representing over 13,000 Latin‑American Canadians who call Manitoba their home, or hogar [home] in Spanish or lar [home] in Portuguese.

      And as this number grows, so does Manitoba's cultural diversity, our workforce, our business land­scape and our communities.

      Recently, our Progressive Conservative team celebrated our Spruce Woods by‑election victory at the Woodfire Deli, owned by Alex and Maria, a young family who brought their business experience from Mexico to start a new life in Souris just a few years ago.

      We see examples like Alex and Maria all across Westman, where more and more families from Central and South America have planted their roots for the past decade.

      And it's because of advocates like Latinas Manitoba and the Hispanic Association of Manitoba and many, many others that young families, new­comers and long‑time residents alike are better able to  access opportunities, navigate social services, preserve their cultures, engage with community and so on.

      I thank all Latin Manitobans for their many con­tributions to our province; for sharing your culture, heritage, entrepreneurship and courage with us, and for your proven commitment to making Manitoba a better place for all.

      I look forward to joining you and our colleagues in the Rotunda this afternoon to continue this celebration.

      Thank you.

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, I ask for leave to respond to the minister's statement.

The Speaker: Does the hon­our­able member for Tyndall Park have leave? [Agreed]

MLA Lamoureux: I'd like to begin by thanking the minister for bringing forward this very important ministerial statement.

      Back in 2018, Parliament of Canada proclaimed October as Latin American Heritage Month to officially recognize the tremendous contributions the community continues to make and I am thrilled that today, October 15, 2025, Manitoba proclaimed the same.

      Canadians of Latin American origin make up a large and growing population here in Manitoba. Organizations like Latinas Manitoba, who I have had the honour of working with, and the broader Latin American community have demonstrated just how much they enrich our province through all of their con­tri­bu­tions, whether it be through local businesses, work in health care or edu­ca­tion, just to list a few sectors where they play very large roles.

      Now, Honourable Speaker, we do need to high­light that there are still barriers being faced by many immigrants to this day, including challenges in accessing resources, integration, professional oppor­tunities and cultural representation.

      I am grateful for the organizations and individuals who are working tirelessly to support, unite and empower the Latin American community across Manitoba, but we need to do even more.

      For example, we could further empower organ­izations to enhance collaboration and increase com­munity visibility.

      Similar to just earlier this week, on October 12, when there was the first‑ever Hispanic heritage celebration at Canada Life Centre during the Manitoba Moose game. This is a great way to increase community visibility.

      In closing, Honourable Speaker, I'd like to thank the minister again for proclaiming the month of October as Latin American heritage month and I'd like to thank everyone who has joined us in the gallery, including the consulate general for El Salvador as well as a couple of my mom friends who I have connected with over the years for our babies' playdates.

      Thank you for joining us here this afternoon and I look forward to this evening's event.

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: Prior to members' statements, there's some guests in the gallery I'd like to intro­duce.

      We have seated in the public gallery, from Immanuel Christian School, 25 grade 4 students under the direction of Maryne Vandermeulen, and this group is located in the con­stit­uency of hon­our­able member for Radisson (MLA Dela Cruz).

      We welcome you here today.

      And we have seated in the public gallery, from Dufferin Christian School, 25 grade 4 students under the direction of Sandra Vanderkwoude [phonetic], and this group is located in the con­stit­uency of the hon­our­able member for Midland (Mrs. Stone).

      And we welcome you here today.

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Members' Statements

Acknowledging First Respon­ders during Wildfires

MLA Eric Redhead (Thompson): Today I rise to recognize the incredible efforts of our first responders in Thompson and across northern Manitoba. This past wildfire season tested our communities' resilience, and the courage and commitment of our firefighters kept families and homes safe. Their tireless work on the front lines, often in dangerous and unpredictable conditions, deserve our deepest gratitude.

      I want to acknowledge the Thompson Fire & Emergency Services team for their outstanding service throughout the summer. From responding to emergencies to support wildfire suppression in Snow Lake, Leaf Rapids, their dedication was unwavering. Nine new members joined our team this year, Hon­our­able Speaker, strengthening our capacity to protect lives and property. These brave individuals embody the spirit of service that defines our province.

      This season showed the strength of global solidarity. Firefighters from Mexico, New Zealand, Quebec and other regions joined forces with local emergency response teams, standing shoulder to shoulder in the fight against wildfires.

      Their presence was a powerful reminder that in times of crisis, borders fade and communities unite. Together we proved that when we support one another, we can overcome even the most daunting challenges.

      Equally, I want to commend the Thompson RCMP for their proactive approach to community safety. Over the first eight months of this year, calls for services have dropped by 13 per cent, with significant reductions in thefts, assaults, impaired driving charges. Their efforts, alongside community safety offers–officers, have made our streets safer and neighborhoods stronger.

      While drug‑related investigations increased, these actions reflect a commit­ment–

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member's time is expired.

Some Honourable Members: Leave.

The Speaker: Does the member have leave to finish his statement? [Agreed]

MLA Redhead: Tackling crime head‑on, keeping illegal substances out of our communities.

      Honourable Speaker, today we celebrate the fire­fighters, police officers and safety personnel who worked tirelessly to protect northern Manitoba. Their leadership and bravery remind us all that public safety is a shared respon­si­bility and that together we can over­come any challenge.

      Ekosi.

Inter­national Day of Rural Women

Ms. Jodie Byram (Agassiz): Today is International Day of Rural Women, and we take a moment to recognize and celebrate the incredible contributions of women and girls across the globe who have made a significant impact in rural areas. This day is not just an acknowledgment; it is a tribute to the strength, resilience and dedication of rural women everywhere.

      Today I want to honour the rural women and girls here in our great province of Manitoba. Behind the scenes they often go unnoticed, but today, I want to recognize the important role they have in rural Manitoba and spe­cific­ally agriculture.

      Having growing up on a farm, I have a unique understanding of rural farm life. I've witnessed first‑hand the commitment and investment required to maintain this lifestyle. The decisions that women make in these households are not just about daily operations, but they shape the very fabric of our agriculture communities.

      Women are essential to the success of rural house­­holds and communities. We see countless women from various generations stepping up into leadership roles within agriculture. Some are farmers, others are agribusiness professionals and many are students pursuing agriculture programs. These women are not just participants; they are the backbone of many farming families, driving progress and inno­vation in our rural landscapes.

      As we approach the end of the harvest season, we can reflect on the countless ways women contribute to this critical time: preparing meals in the fields, extra set of hands for running errands, managing financing, scheduling harvest help, co‑ordinating meal times. Their efforts are integral to the success of harvest.

      So today, let us celebrate the remarkable work of women who have chosen rural Manitoba, where they are making a difference.

      Happy International Day of Rural Women here in Manitoba and across the globe. You make a difference in all our communities.

      Thank you.

Tyndall Park Town Hall

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Over the summer I held a town hall, and there were three pre­dominant topics. The first was public transit, which I raised last week and would like to thank the minister for his comments. My hope is that the government will put some pressure on the City to re‑evaluate some of the changes that were made to help our constituents who have expressed some serious concerns.

      The second issue from the town hall is the issue of ground squirrels, which I would like to address here today. Ground squirrels have become a very large issue here in Manitoba, and Tyndall Park is one of the communities who have been affected particularly hard.

      My constituents have signed a petition that I would like to table now, outlining some of the facts. Areas including Fairgrove Bay, Shaughnessy Park and Tyndall Park all have damaged athletic fields, green spaces, fences, trees, garbage bins and flowerbeds. These ground squirrels have created safety concerns by digging near fire hydrants, and many residents have had to call exterminators due to infestations around their homes.

      Honourable Speaker, there has been a huge increase in roadkill, creating unsanitary remains on roadways and in parks where other animals, and unfortunately even children, are interacting with the carcasses.

      It is also notable that other constituencies are affected by this. A constituent of River Heights shared with me, and I quote: The park is overrun with ground squirrels, the terrain has been so degraded it is now a safety hazard and warning signs even advise visitors to use at your own risk.

      Honourable Speaker, I am strongly encouraging the Province to reconsider their denial of the City of Winnipeg's pesticide permit and work collaboratively with the City to find an immediate, effective and safe ground squirrel control system.

      Thank you.

The Speaker: Order, please.

      Was the hon­our­able member for Tyndall Park quoting from a private docu­ment or a public one?

MLA Lamoureux: I am quoting from an email that I was given permission to share in this House.

The Speaker: You will have to table it, then.

MLA Lamoureux: I will table the docu­ment.

The Speaker: Thank you.

Headingley Fitness Centre

Mrs. Kathleen Cook (Roblin): I rise today to recog­nize the recent opening of the Headingley Fitness Centre, a remarkable 12,000‑square‑foot expan­sion of the Headingley Community Centre, now home to a new gymnasium, fitness centre and fitness studio.

      Last month, members of the community gathered for the grand opening. I had the opportunity to walk through the facility and it's absolutely beautiful, with state‑of‑the‑art equipment, spacious change rooms and showers and a peaceful studio space filled with natural light.

      This achievement reflects what's possible when a community comes together with a shared vision and a plan. Headingley has long been known for its strong community spirit, and this project is a shining example of that.

      Projects like this don't happen overnight. They take years of planning, fundraising and the dedication of many hands and hearts. Headingley is a community that gets things done and gets them done right.

      A special thank you goes to the Taillieu family, whose generosity as the legacy sponsor helped bring this vision to life. In recognition of their contribution, the Wilf Taillieu Gymnasium now proudly bears their name, a lasting tribute to their commitment to the community.

      I also want to acknowledge and thank the dozens of individuals and local businesses that donated to this project. Their names are now recognized on the very impressive donor wall in the entrance to the facility.

      The Headingley Community Centre is more than just a building; it's a hub for connection, celebration and now healthier living. With this expansion, Headingley has even greater capacity to support families, seniors and future generations.

      Thank you to the RM staff, the mayor and council, the volunteers, organizations, donors, and most im­por­tantly, the residents of Headingley for making this incredible project a reality. Some of those folks have joined us in the gallery and on the loge today, and I want to thank them for their continued commitment to Headingley and for joining us here at the Legislature today, and I ask that their names be added to Hansard.

Rob Drummond, Sandra Miller, Glen Reimer, Mavis Taillieu.

Sopilka Ukrainian Dance School

Mr. Mark Wasyliw (Fort Garry): I am honoured to rise today to recognize Sopilka Ukrainian Dance School, which this year celebrates its 55th anniversary as a cornerstone of cultural life in south Winnipeg and beyond.

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      Founded in 1971 by Vicky Adams as part of the Ukrainian language program at Holy Family Ukrainian Catholic Parish, the school began as the South Winnipeg School of Dance before taking on the  name Sopilka after the traditional Ukrainian wood­­wind instrument.

      From these beginnings, Sopilka has grown into a thriving in­sti­tution, with more than 140 dancers dedicated to sharing the beauty of Ukraine heritage through dance.

      Since becoming a registered non‑profit in 2018, Sopilka has provided high‑quality instruction for dancers of all ages while fostering community pride and cultural preservation. For the past 15 years, under the artistic direction of Kristina Frykas, the school has inspired both dancers and audiences with its artistry and vision.

      Over the decades, Sopilka has represented Manitoba and Canada with distinction. Its dancers have per­formed across our province, at Canada's National Ukrainian Festival in Dauphin, at Expo 86 in  Vancouver, at Vegreville's Ukrainian Pysanka Festival and on the stage of Winnipeg's cherished Folklorama Kyiv Pavilion. They have performed for royalty, welcomed visiting officials, shared their talent internationally in Ukraine, Brazil and Croatia.

      Sopilka is more than a dance school; it's a beacon of cultural preservation and a testament to the endurance of tradition across generations. For 55 years, it has brought people together, strengthened cultural knowledge and celebrated the vibrancy of Ukrainian identity in Manitoba.

      I invite all members to join me in congratulating Sopilka Ukrainian Dance School on their 55th anni­versary and in wishing them continued success as they inspire new generations of dancers and community leaders.

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The Speaker: I would like to take a moment now to intro­duce some new faces in the Chamber.

      I am pleased to introduce to the House the 10 students who have been selected to serve as pages for this session. I would ask members to hold their applause until I have completed the introductions.

      Starting from my right: from the University of Winnipeg Collegiate, Gurreet Kaur Kaylee [phonetic]Khela, sorry. From Argyle Alternative High School,  Cherie [phonetic] Perrault‑Keeper. From Transcona Collegiate, Chielo Jose. From Grant Park High School, Sukhmeet Kaur Ghatrorhe. From St. John's‑Ravenscourt School, Anna Kersey. From Maples Collegiate, Sehajveer Kaur Sidhu. From colle­giate Churchill high school, Karsen Craven. From École Saint‑Joachim, Josie Auch.

      Unfortunately, Milena Zaizets [phonetic] from Maples Collegiate could not be here today.

      I'm also pleased to announce that the Assembly's senior page this year is Kathryn Sacher. Kathryn assisted in training the new pages and will mentor and work with them as they learn their duties. Kathryn also attended the Assembly's education and outreach program, Learning at the Leg! lunch and learn, where she promoted the page program to the educators in attendance.

      Kathryn also recently featured in an interview on CBC Radio to promote the 2025 page reunion. The Assembly is very pleased to have Kathlyn [phonetic] back with us for a second year.

      I would ask all members to join me in welcoming the 2025‑2026 Manitoba pages.

      Welcome.

Oral Questions

Homeless Encampments
Public Safety Concerns

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): I want to welcome former MLA Mavis Taillieu and former MLA James Teitsma, the former great baritone singer of O Canada in this Chamber.

      I also want to take a second to con­gratu­late Tony Wakeham, the incoming Progressive Conservative Party–in Newfoundland and Labrador. Con­gratu­la­tions.

      Now, closer to home in Manitoba, Manitobans are fed up with this failing NDP gov­ern­ment. Yesterday a group of children walking by a park had a water bottle thrown at them and then were chased by an individual living in an encampment at a park.

      The Premier promised to end homelessness in two  terms, but under the NDP gov­ern­ment, home­lessness popu­la­tion is higher now than it's ever been. Over 2,500 people are ex­per­iencing homelessness, the highest since 2015.

      What is the Premier doing to put safety of Manitobans first?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Hon­our­able Speaker, I want to take this op­por­tun­ity to welcome all the new pages and to encourage them to have a great year of learning, and to be inspired about the potential for our demo­cracy here in Manitoba.

      Now, when it comes to the incident that we're discussing, I have to say that as a parent, as a leader and as an everyday Manitoban, I'm completely disgusted. What happened has no place anywhere on earth. No child should ever be in danger when they go playing at the park.

      That's why we're taking steps like the intoxicated persons detention act overhaul that we've announced; building new spaces when it comes to being able to  hold people who are under the influence of methamphetamine.

      Question I'd like the member opposite to enter­tain is, in 2019 the intoxicated drug task force received a recom­men­dation–and I'll table this for the House–to  extend the timeline of the intoxicated persons detention act. This was six years ago. Why didn't the PCs do anything about it?

The Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Khan: Hon­our­able Speaker, The question was about encampments, not this Premier's pet project of pushing forward a drug con­sump­tion site in Manitoba. Parents want safety. He says he's disgusted, but he won't answer the question about encampments.

      The individual had a lengthy criminal record including robberies and weapon crimes. They are by definition a repeat violent offender. He remains before the courts for a number of offenses last month, including two counts of assaulting a police officer and possessing a weapon.

      The Premier falsely promised to end home­lessness in Manitoba; he falsely promised bail reform; falsely promised that he'd keep violent offenders in jail. Oh no, wait, he never promised he'd keep repeat violent offenders in jail, because under this NDP gov­ern­ment, repeat violent offenders are getting let out faster than they can be arrested.

      So the question again to the Premier: What is he doing to keep Manitobans safe?

Mr. Kinew: Hon­our­able Speaker, keeping you and every other Manitoban safe is my No. 1 respon­si­bility, and it's the No. 1 respon­si­bility for everyone on our team.

      And that's why we're taking action to ensure that law en­force­ment and mental health pro­fes­sionals will be able to keep people who are high on meth in a cell for 72 hours.

      I'll remind the members opposite that that is why I'm talking about this here. They–their political staff–can't keep their leader safe from asking questions that he doesn't know the factual basis of. Again, the site at 190–this is a press release, that I'll table, from more than a year ago, in 2024, talking about a sobering centre at 190 Disraeli.

      This is also the bill that this member and his entire caucus just supported at second reading. We are taking steps to keep you, to keep kids, to keep every­body in our com­mu­nity safe.

      They don't even know the topic that they're raising in question period. Good thing they're not in charge of your gov­ern­ment.

The Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: For the third time, I'll ask the Premier: I'm talking about keeping Manitobans safe next to encampments, not his drug injection site, Hon­our­able Speaker. Families deserve to feel safe, but this Premier is doing nothing for public safety.

      We've seen the City of Winnipeg take a step closer to enforcing tighter rules on homeless encamp­ments. The motion calls for a campment to only be 50  metres from a playground, pool, school and day­cares. On this side of the House, we don't believe 50 metres is enough.

      So will the Premier come out and support the City of Winnipeg's motion, but call for an increase in distance and commit to supporting the City of Winnipeg with increase in funding for policing and en­force­ment to support this motion?

Mr. Kinew: I suppose the next question will be him standing up to say, good job, because we already added 36 police to the city of Winnipeg following two terms in which the PCs cut the number of law en­force­ment officers in the city by 55.

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      Now, when it comes to the member himself, he continues his apology tour. Just a few days ago, he was apologizing for some unfor­tunate gestures which trivialized the issue of mental health. It recalls me to a time in com­mit­tee within the same calendar year in which he apologized for using the term drug injection site. Now he is gassed up here in question period, using it all over again.

      I will repeat: 190 is not for supervised con­sump­tion; it is to detain people who are high on meth.

      This is a bill that the PCs supported. The member that is being raised–the member of the public–is currently in jail right now, as we speak. The PCs have no single leg to stand on. They can't even get the facts right. Good thing they're not in gov­ern­ment.

      We're working hard to keep you safe.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a new question.

Increase in Grocery Prices
Gov­ern­ment Reduction Record

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): To recap, I asked the Premier if he thinks 50 metres away from a school, a playground or a daycare is far away enough to keep kids safe, and he refused to answer the question. I think you have it right there, Manitobans.

      This isn't the only promise the Premier failed to live up to. The Premier loves to just say things. He failed on his bail reform; he failed on health care; he failed on economy, and now he's failed on bringing down grocery prices.

      The Premier threatened grocery chains, and he said, quote, I'm calling their bluff, end quote, if they don't lower their grocery prices. I table that article for the Premier to read today. Almost two years later, and grocery prices are higher than they've ever been in the history of this province.

      Why did the Premier threaten grocery chains and then promise to lower grocery prices when he had no plan to do it?

Hon. Wab Kinew (Premier): Yes. Grocery prices are high and the member knows it; that's why all his Green Carrot locations are closed. He's terrible at running a busi­ness. Couldn't run a lemonade stand. Literally, all his lemonade stands are closed.

      But when it comes to real people out there who aren't spending money donated by PC donors or by the  gov­ern­ment of Manitoba–you, the average hard‑working Manitoban–we know that we need to help with the cost of living. That's why the first thing that we did was we cut the gas tax to put more money into your pocket. That's why the second thing that we did was to cut income taxes. That's why this past year, we cut the payroll tax.

      And you know what the PCs did every single step of the way, Hon­our­able Speaker? They opposed it. They thanked Donald Trump; they opposed tax cuts.

      What does the PC Party of Manitoba even stand for? Absolutely nothing.

      It's a good thing that we're in charge. We're saving you money; we're fixing health care; we're making the streets safer.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: Once again, the Premier reverts back to who he is and that's making jokes, making jokes about small busi­nesses, and personal attacks. It's just the bully he is. Manitobans are finally seeing it.

      Under the NDP, Stats Canada reports that infant formula is up almost 20 per cent; apples are up 36 per cent, oranges 19 per cent, not to mention the cost of meat, chicken. Basic living essentials are all higher than they've ever been, under this NDP gov­ern­ment.

      The Premier has made it harder than ever for families to live and survive here in the province of Manitoba.

      Why has the Premier–and why is he continuing to fail on every single promise that he made?

Mr. Kinew: Hon­our­able Speaker, do you remember when the PCs were in office? Do you remember what inflation was then? Eight per cent.

      We got into office; we were elected; we stopped it, right away. How did we do it? We cut the gas tax. That put money back into your pocket, and it also brought inflation down from the highs of the Stefanson, Pallister, members opposite era of 8 per cent, brought it back down into the Bank of Canada's target range, where it has maintained every single month that we have been in office.

      We're beating them on public safety; we're beat­ing them on the economy; we're beating them on tax cuts. And it's because we're committed to producing results for you, the people of Manitoba.

      But I want to return to the first set of questions that the member opposite seemingly couldn't under­stand the importance of taking people who are high on meth off of the streets and keeping our kids safe.

      I want to share with members of the public that we have the expert opinion of four leading physicians from Shared Health here that are supporting the legis­lation that they also supported, validating–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: The Premier won't even try to answer the question I'm asking because he knows, under him, grocery prices are the highest they've ever been. He wants to live in the past. Manitobans are worried about today, how they're going to put food on their tables today, not what was done in the past–today.

      Will the Premier stand up and actually answer the question that I proposed for him about lowering grocery prices? Under this Premier, he's increased your edu­ca­tional property taxes by $350 million. He's increased your income taxes by $400 million in just two years. And grocery prices are higher than they've ever been.

      Will the Premier admit today that he has no plan, and when he threatened grocery stores, he had no inten­tion of following through on that, and grocery prices are higher now than they were when he took office?

Mr. Kinew: Well, I'm sure if he had more time today, he'd be saying good job on this one as well, too. In addition to adding more law en­force­ment, what did we do? We changed contract law in Manitoba to break up the monopolies, to break up that buffer zone that the big grocery chains used to put around their perimeters to prevent competition.

      More competition in Manitoba equals lower prices for you. We know that on this side of the House. They'll teach you that in busi­ness school. But the members opposite, they don't like the market. They don't like competition. No surprise coming from the guy who got fewer votes than the other one in their leadership contest.

      But again, talking about grocery prices, we passed legis­lation to make prices cheaper. You look at inflation every single month that we've been in office: lower than the PCs. We're also taking action. I'll table these letters for the people of the public to see to get meth off our streets. Four physicians, the leading doctors on addictions medicine in Manitoba, sup­porting our 72-hour detention period so people can get–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Reliability of 911 Emergency Services System
Request for In­de­pen­dent Investigation

Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake-Gimli): Hon­our­able Speaker, it's now been more than six months since the tragic death of Dean Switzer. His family and neighbours called 911 more than 20 times and couldn't connect. The system failed, and his family remains devastated.

      After all this, can the minister now stand in the House and say that Manitobans' 911 system is truly reliable?

Hon. Mike Moroz (Minister of Innovation and New Technology): Hon­our­able Speaker, I want to thank the member opposite for the question and for the reminder of the tragedy that has occurred to the Switzer family. Again, our con­dol­ences are extended to them and all those impacted by his loss.

      I will, again, remind the member: cellphone coverage is, of course, a federal respon­si­bility. We continue to work with our federal counterparts to improve the system, and we're making good progress on that.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Interlake-Gimli, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Johnson: Hon­our­able Speaker, I feel shame for him that I had to remind him about the Switzer family. The entire Switzer family is still waiting for answers. They have asked for accountability, not blame, and for assurances that no other family has to go through what they did.

      After six months of reflection, can the minister–has the minister changed his mind and will he now commit to a full in­de­pen­dent inquiry into the technical aspects of Manitoba's 911 system, including phones, cell providers, dispatch and first respon­ders?

MLA Moroz: Again, I want to thank the member for the question. We continue to work, as I say, with our counterparts at the federal level. We have an excellent working relationship with Secretary of State Belanger. We're committed to finding a path forward to ensure that cell coverage is extended in a com­pre­hen­sive way to all Manitobans.

      We're going to continue to do that work, and I trust we will find together a solution.

Prov­incial Finances
Balanced Budget Timeline

Mrs. Lauren Stone (Midland): Hon­our­able Speaker, this Finance Minister has spent $1.3 billion more than he budgeted for last year. Now the NDP, after two years, have left Manitobans with $4 billion in back‑to‑back deficits, despite 8 and a half billion dollars in out‑of‑control spending. The economy, crime and health care are getting worse.

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      How does this failing Finance Minister believe he  is ever going to return to balance with his debt‑and‑spend approach?

Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): Hon­our­able Speaker, after years of irresponsible fiscal manage­ment, this gov­ern­ment is finally managing the books responsibly here in Manitoba.

      This team–this team–across from us left Manitobans with a $2‑billion hole that we had to climb out of. Now, again, I know they don't like to hear this, but they don't have to take our word for it. The in­de­pen­dent accounting firm, MNP, confirmed that, due to their reckless and irresponsible decision making and their failure to properly plan, Manitobans were left with a $2‑billion hole.

      What did we do in the following year? We   reduced that deficit by 42 per cent, almost $850‑million reduction. We're managing the books respon­si­bly because we know, when we manage the books responsibly, we can invest more in health care and affordability and–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Mrs. Stone: Only an NDP Finance Minister would be able to take a $373-million surplus and turn it into $4 billion of back-to-back deficits. The NDP have no credibility on balancing the budget.

      Let's look at this past year alone: despite hundreds of millions of dollars in additional taxation on edu­ca­tion property taxes and income taxes, despite $280 million from a tobacco settlement this past August, $4.6 billion of equalization payments; and he still cannot balance the budget and have calculated a–additional billion-dollar deficit this year.

      When will this government show some fiscal discipline, stop the runaway spending and present a credible plan to balancing the budget this year?

MLA Sala: Hon­our­able Speaker, we're really proud that Moody's and S&P have also confirmed that our recent budget shows that we're doing the im­por­tant work of setting Manitoba on a good fiscal track. They confirmed our credit rating and they brought–they said that we have a stable credit outlook into the future.

      That shows that we have in­de­pen­dent confir­mation that our fiscal plan is strong and it's very different than the mess that the PCs left us.

      I also want to say, beyond just good fiscal manage­ment, we are building the stronger econ­omy for tomorrow. Our last budget brought in a $3.7‑billion capital plan that has us building 11 schools, 3 personal-care homes; finally, NEWPCC.

      We're doing the work of ensuring we build a stronger Manitoba for tomorrow. We're keeping the province more affordable, we're fixing health care, all while we set Manitoba on a good fiscal path.

Temporary Detention of Intoxicated Individuals
Pro­tec­tive Care Centres–Operating Costs

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): The pro­tec­tive detention care of intoxicated persons act is being rammed through with many questions–many, many questions that are not being answered.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, can this minister tell Manitobans: How many doctors, psychiatric nurses, addiction counsellors and security will each one of these pro­tec­tive-care sites require? If not, then why not?

Hon. Bernadette Smith (Minister of Housing, Addictions and Homelessness): What I can tell that member is that I–we do have four doctors, four specialists: one that works in the ER, another one that is addictions specialist. Many that are in support of this pro­tec­tive detention care centre–one that's going to be opening up at 190 Disraeli that was announced in July of last year that we've been working on opening up.

      And again, this is about safety and security, ensuring that people get the care that members opposite ignored. And, again, we are supporting and meeting people where they're at. This is what Manitobans had–have asked for. We were elected here to listen to Manitobans and we are doing the work for you, the Manitoban, that we are elected here to do.

      So I'm going to table this letter–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Portage la Prairie, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Pro­tec­tive Care Centre Location–Public Consultations

MLA Bereza: Hon­our­able Speaker, this NDP gov­ern­ment doesn't care that local residents need to have a say in major decisions in their own com­mu­nity. I table a Free Press article addressing just that.

      If the Manitoba gov­ern­ment wants to move ahead with its plan to open a 72-hour detox centre, it owes the public, especially residents living near the proposed site, a lot of more infor­ma­tion.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, will the minister provide the infor­ma­tion today for the people living around 190 Disraeli? What is this minister trying to hide?

Ms. Smith: What we are trying to do is keep our streets safe and protect and help those who need resources to get the supports that they need.

And members opposite supported this bill so I'm unsure why they are on the opposite side today. You know, Manitobans have been asking for this, the enlisted task force asked for this in 2019. They asked the previous gov­ern­ment to support this, and I'm going to table this so–I don't know what's going on here, why they're not supporting this today but–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Ms. Smith: –this is what Manitobans have asked for and again this is about keeping people safe, getting people the resources they need, expanding this so people on methamphetamines outside of alcohol can get the supports that they need–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Closed Tendered Contracts
Number of Unawarded Bids

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): We have a robust public tendering system to ensure that public funds are   used responsibly and to safe­guard against interference. Unfor­tunately, Manitobans are raising con­cerns that the system is not being followed.

      Can the Minister of Public Service Delivery explain why over half of closed contracts listed on MERX have not been awarded in the system, or is there some­thing to hide?

Hon. Mintu Sandhu (Minister of Public Service Delivery): I want to thank the member for that question. I don't know what–where member was and also the Op­posi­tion Leader. Maybe they are not really listening to the general public, only they care about their own offices where they are maybe hiding in their offices and really not paying attention to what's going on out there. And we are working hard and we are listening to Manitobans and we are delivering the priorities that Manitobans have sent to deliver on us.

Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Selkirk, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Perchotte: Hon­our­able Speaker, this is about accountability and 'transparity' in our system that we have. Manitobans need to know the systems are in place and safeguards are not being circumvented. We've seen it with an increase in direct awards under this NDP gov­ern­ment. Why now are public tenders being closed and left unfulfilled, or is there more to this?

MLA Sandhu: I don't know where the member was. We have committed $3.7 billion capital budget this year and we are still filling that budget and we are delivering on where Manitobans sent us to deliver, those priorities.

And again, as the member, the Opposi­tion Leader is looking forward to update his furniture for his office, we will take that meeting as well as we will also update his furniture in his office so he can stay there for a long, long time.

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

The Speaker: Order. Order.

No Net Loss of Wetlands Policy
Pro­tec­tion of Existing Ecosystems

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Manitoba is known for our 100,000 lakes, our beautiful scenery and mostly clean water. Unfor­tunately, our wetlands, marshes and other spaces, which work to keep water clean and therefore benefit species of all kinds are currently at risk. While I am grateful that this gov­ern­ment has installed a no-net-loss policy on wetlands, a lot more still needs to be done.

      There are wetlands near forests, parks and farm­lands being relocated because of human encroach­ment and dev­elop­ment. Can the minister explain clearly how their no-net-loss plan will mitigate any further risks to existing ecosystems?

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Hon. Mike Moyes (Minister of Environment and Climate Change): Thank you to the member for bringing up our waterways. As a province with over 100,000 lakes, countless rivers and watersheds, we value our water. Manitobans value our water.

      We recog­nize how im­por­tant it is in terms of recreation, in terms of our economy, but also just for the natural world. Our gov­ern­ment is working, not only in the Environ­ment and Climate Change, but also in the de­part­ment of Trans­por­tation, Infra­structure, Munici­pal and Northern Relations to protect our water, unlike the PC–the former PC gov­ern­ment.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a supplementary question.

Protecting Farmland and Wetlands
Request for Drought Mitigation Plan

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitoba summer droughts are becoming more frequent due to climate change, in turn affecting our wetlands and our farmlands. Some farmers have turned to irrigation while others have turned towards con­ser­va­tion. And they, like many Manitobans, know that protecting our vast areas of wetlands–43 per cent of our land–allows for healthy soil, stable floods and filtered water.

      What is this gov­ern­ment doing spe­cific­ally to help farmers mitigate the effects of drought and pro­tect their farmland and surrounding wetlands?

Hon. Mike Moyes (Minister of Environment and Climate Change): Let me go through what our gov­ern­ment is going to do. We're taking sig­ni­fi­cant steps to improve and protect our watersheds. This includes putting in the first nutrient targets. This includes pressing the issue of mega dairy farms in North Dakota with the International Joint Commission. This includes strengthening our environ­mental en­force­ment with Bill 22. We've made invest­ments for a new pick. We've been holding the City accountable for their pollution. We're working with munici­palities to ensure that they can build the water infra­structure. The list goes on and on and on.

      We're going to continue to fight for our water.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

North Dakota Dairy Farm Expansion
Water Pro­tec­tion Act Review Process

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, many lakes and rivers including Lake Winnipeg and the Red River are under threat. Concerns have been raised regarding two large‑scale mega dairy farms with tens of thousands of cows that are planned to be installed next to the Red River in North Dakota.

      Unfor­tunately, this will further intensify the algal bloom toxin running through our lakes due to fertilizers, causing health issues to the water, wildlife and people.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, The Water Pro­tec­tion Act reads that the minister regulates such risks near specific water sources. So why did it take the inter­national organi­zations to begin the review process, and where is the minister in all of this?

Hon. Mike Moyes (Minister of Environment and Climate Change): Well, thank you to the member for bringing that up. We took action imme­diately as soon as we found out about these mega dairy farms in North Dakota.

      We've been working hand in hand with the federal gov­ern­ment, with our counterparts in North Dakota. We want to mitigate the effects of these mega dairy. We recog­nize the threat that it puts into our watershed, and unfortunately, I would mention to the member opposite that we can't control what happens in North Dakota. But we are going to fight, fight, fight for our water to ensure that our watersheds are safe.

Former Premier Stefanson
Fine for Caretaker Convention Breach

MLA Robert Loiselle (St. Boniface): Last week, former PC premier Heather Stefanson was found guilty of breaking the law and violating our con­sti­tu­tion. Manitobans still have many questions for Heather Stefanson: why did she break the law, who was she working for, what private financial interest did she have in the Sio Silica project?

      Today, the media is reporting that she has the money to pay her fine. Now she's run out of excuses.

      So we have to ask: Where is Heather? Has she paid her fine? Can the minister tell the House how we might get some answers?

French spoken

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): Merci beaucoup pour cette question-ça – pour cette question.

Translation

Thank you very much for that question–for this question.

English

      Earlier this year, for the first time in history, a former premier, former PC premier Heather Stefanson was fined $18,000 for breaking the law and violating the constitutions. But Manitobans recently learned that, while Heather was lounging in boardrooms in the Bahamas, she was also collecting over $96,000 in severance from Manitoba taxpayers. Not only that, but we know she then decided to give some of that money to the PC leader for his leadership campaign.

      Manitobans demand true accountability from their elected leaders; not corruption, not backroom dealing, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      Will the PC leader call Heather Stefanson today, show some leadership, demand that she return the money that she took from Manitoba taxpayers to pay–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

New Markets for Manitoba Farmers
Request for Min­is­terial Action

Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): When I recently asked the Ag Minister in this House about his inaction, what he said was that the Saskatchewan premier, Scott Moe, went to Indonesia and came back with, I quote, nothing.

      I'd like to enter into the record this stack of news articles on the new Saskatchewan-Indonesia trade deal, as well as the official news releases from the gov­ern­ment of Saskatchewan and the gov­ern­ment of Indonesia detailing Saskatchewan's new trade deal for agri­cul­ture.

      Saskatchewan has been suc­cess­ful in opening up  Asian markets in the tune of $10 billion for Saskatchewan agri­cul­ture.

      Can the minister explain why Saskatchewan has been suc­cess­ful in opening up billions–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      Just one moment, please. You said you were–the member said he was going to table some­thing? [interjection] Oh. Was the docu­ment the member was talking about public or private?

An Honourable Member: It's tabled.

The Speaker: So the docu­ment has been tabled?

An Honourable Member: Yes.

Hon. Glen Simard (Acting Minister of Agriculture): So I guess I know who they're cheering for on the 17th: Roughriders, maybe?

      But what I would have to say is that our minister is working very hard at opening new markets. In fact, that's what our minister does. He's actively working on building those markets for canola, and they're also working to make sure that our farmers have the respect that they deserve.

      The members opposite didn't respect producers: they closed offices; they ignored them; they put their heads in the sand.

      Crown lands? Three hundred per cent. Like, I mean, I'm just channelling our great Minister of Agri­cul­ture (Mr. Kostyshyn) here. The problem here is when they talk about respect for farmers, they don't even respect voters.

      So let's be clear: I'm all for team Manitoba. We will continue to work with our agri­cul­ture producers to make sure that their lives are affordable, that the products get in the bins and that they can market it to the world.

The Speaker: The honourable member for La Vérendrye, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Narth: Potentially there's a Cabinet shuffle there with a new Ag Minister.

      My question for the minister or this Premier (Mr. Kinew) is: Why is Saskatchewan going out and able to get more than $10 billion in new trade deals for the farmers of Saskatchewan, and in Manitoba, the Premier and this minister are sitting on their hands without getting anything?

      Can the minister–or, potentially the new minister–tell us how many new markets Manitoba has opened up to its farmers?

Mr. Simard: I think it's very interesting that the members opposite look at our bench and see what's going, but they refuse to look within. Look at–within yourself.

      And we know that they are going to the public right now, saying the sky is falling, every­thing is bad; they're the Chicken Little op­posi­tion. It's just not true. They tried to sell it in the general election; they tried to sell it in Transcona; they tried to sell it in Tuxedo, and they failed every time. Even tried it in Spruce Woods and barely, barely got by–barely. But we're coming.

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Simard: We are coming. Celebrating a overtime win because the refs threw a flag–that's the only–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Highway 34 in Spruce Woods
Request for Repair Timeline

Mrs. Colleen Robbins (Spruce Woods): The NDP committed to the residents of Spruce Woods for repairs of their failing infra­structure that the PCs had a five-year plan on. The CAA report just came out and Highway 34, from Holland to Gladstone, is the worst highway in Manitoba.

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      Since no answer last week, I will simplify it for the minister: When will this work begin?

Hon. Lisa Naylor (Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure): It's my first chance to stand in the House and say con­gratu­la­tions to the new MLA for Spruce Woods.

      Most of the time when folks are standing on the other side of the House, I hear them complaining about all the commit­ments that we have made in the Spruce Woods area over the last few months. I've even heard the member opposite take issue with the amount of commit­ments that our gov­ern­ment has made in that com­mu­nity.

      So I'm really happy to stand here and remind members opposite and members in Spruce Woods that our gov­ern­ment is investing $115 million to improve Highway 2 by resurfacing between Souris and Deleau. We're improving water quality in Oak Lake; we're investing $2 million in the Spruce Woods Prov­incial Park for trails and campgrounds, new–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Minimum Wage Increase
Cost of Living Concerns

Mr. Mark Wasyliw (Fort Garry): Probe Research polled Manitobans and found 72 per cent of them said $16 is not enough for minimum wage.

      A living wage is $19.21 an hour; that's $3 more than the Kinew gov­ern­ment is willing to pay Manitobans. Adding 20 cents to minimum wage is a 1.1 per cent increase.

      Last year, shelter costs went up 4.8 per cent; food went up 3 per cent; trans­por­tation costs went up 5.3 per cent. Even the Premier's (Mr. Kinew) salary went up 2.5 per cent.

      Will this Premier commit to imme­diately–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Wasyliw: –raising the minimum wage to be the exact same raise that he got this year, and if he won't, can he explain why he deserves an 'incraise' twice as much as what Manitobans are getting?

Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): Hon­our­able Speaker, one thing's for sure is that for years, Manitobans had a gov­ern­ment that wasn't responding to their affordability challenges.

      But finally, that's exactly what our gov­ern­ment is doing, is we are doing the work to make life much more affordable here in Manitoba including with, of course, our hydro rate freeze, with our gas tax cut which we ultimately made permanent for Manitobans, a renters tax credit increase.

      We know the members opposite took away a tax credit from renters: $175. They reduced that; we're restoring that.

      We're building more social and affordable housing to make sure there's housing there for those who need it in our province, taking PST off new social and affordable housing builds and, of course, very proud the work that's been done through our edu­ca­tion and our Premier to drive a uni­ver­sal school nutrition pro­gram so every single child in this province can start the day with a–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Fort Garry, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Wasyliw: Manitobans to be treated just as well as their MLAs. Minimum wage increases should be no lower than the cost-of-the-living increases that MLAs receive each year.

      The price of housing is skyrocketing; renting an apartment is not affordable to someone on middle–minimum wage. In fact, according to the centre of policy alternatives, you would have to make $29 an hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment in north Fort Garry. That number climbs to $31 an hour for the greater Winnipeg area. That's not right.

      Will the Premier commit to imme­diately raising the minimum wage to match the increase he received this year, yes or no?

MLA Sala: Hon­our­able Speaker, housing certainly is a concern here in Manitoba, and that's why it was so worrisome to see the former gov­ern­ment sell off 385 units of social housing only a mere couple blocks from this building, taking away that housing that we know Manitobans needed.

      Fortunately, Manitobans now have a gov­ern­ment and a team led by, here, Minister Smith–or, sorry, our member for Point Douglas (Ms. Smith), who's doing the im­por­tant work of ensuring that we invest in bringing more social and affordable housing online for Manitobans so that we have the housing we need. And that's in addition, of course, to the 25 ways to save we brought in with our last budget.

      This gov­ern­ment cares about everyday Manitobans. We're going to keep doing that work; we're listening, and every single day, we're going to keep focusing on making life more affordable for those who need those supports.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Fort Garry, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Wasyliw: The Premier of Manitoba received a $5,000 cost-of-living increase this year. Manitobans received a 20-cent-an-hour rise that, over the course of a year, amounts to $416.

      The Premier received a raise that was 10 times what he was prepared to give Manitobans. That 1.1 per cent increase to the minimum wage doesn't even cover rent.

      Manitoba gov­ern­ment capped rent increases at 1.7 per cent this year, which means that the minimum wage workers are falling further and further behind. The cost-of-living increase doesn't even match how expensive the Province is making their rent.

      Will the Premier do the right thing and imme­diately raise the minimum wage to 2.5 per cent to match what he received this year, yes or no?

MLA Sala: Hon­our­able Speaker, we are putting more in Manitobans' pockets, and every single Manitoban is benefiting from a broad middle‑class tax cut that we brought in changing brackets, raising the basic personal exemption. That's in addition to those 25 ways to save.

      Again, for many years, Manitobans had a gov­ern­ment that wasn't responding to these affordability chal­­lenges. Finally, they have a gov­ern­ment that is really focused on making life more affordable.

      And, in addition to that, we are building a stronger economy for all Manitobans to create more op­por­tun­ities for Manitobans to create wealth and build op­por­tun­ities within their family, including that $3.7‑billion capital plan commit­ment. We're seeing 5,300 new jobs online in August and September. We're seeing an­nounce­ments about new mines. We're seeing exciting things coming forward with our economic dev­elop­ment plan and affordable energy plan. We're focused on getting Manitobans to work, creating those op­por­tun­ities for Manitobans across this province–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The time for question period has expired.

Point of Order

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): Hon­our­able Speaker, on a point of order.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Selkirk, on a point of order.

Mr. Perchotte: Hon­our­able Speaker, during my private member's statement yesterday, October 14, 2025, I misspoke identifying my guests. I'd like to correct the record. They were, in fact, Holly and Dennis Whall.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: So I do believe it's not a point of order, but the correction will be noted today.

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The Speaker: The hon­our­able Leader of–no, the hon­our­able member for Tyndall Park.

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, on House busi­ness, I would just like to table the email cor­res­pon­dence that was requested during members' statements.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Tyndall Park, on House busi­ness. Ap­pre­ciate the fact that you tabled the docu­ments. Thank you.

      The time for oral questions has expired.

Petitions

Location of Safe Injection Sites

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Hon­our­able Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      The Province of Manitoba has filed paperwork with the federal government proposing the estab­lishment of a drug injection site for illegal drugs at 200 Disraeli Fwy. without sufficient public consultation.

      (2) The decision to locate the facility at 200 Disraeli was made despite that the site is located in the immediate vicinity of a daycare centre, a high school and multiple community gathering sites, including churches and cultural institutions.

      (3) Residents, business owners and community organizations have raised concerns that the location is incompatible with nearby institutions serving thousands of youths and families, and believe it will erode public safety and confidence in the area.

      (4) Existing community consultation specifically ignored concerns about public safety and were criticized by community members for being artificial and scripted.

      (5)  The provincial government has failed to introduce legislation and regulation to control where drug injection sites can be located.

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      (6) Other provinces are closing drug injection sites and adopting a recovery model, following the expertise of groups such as the Canadian Centre of Recovery Excellence.

      (7) The decision to ignore the experts will leave people suspended in addiction and will not give Manitobans their lives or their loved ones back.

      (8) The provincial government has failed to fund and operate any treatment or additional Rapid Access to Addictions Medicine clinics to break this cycle.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the provincial government to cancel drug injection sites in the Point Douglas community, including the proposed location at 200 Disraeli Freeway.

      (2) To urge the provincial government to legislate that no future site will be proposed without com­munity support.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, this petition was signed by Sara Raposo, José Raposo and Kenina Monoreira [phonetic] and many, many, many other Manitobans.

Rural Com­mu­nity Policing Services

Ms. Jodie Byram (Agassiz): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) All Manitobans deserve to feel safe in their homes and com­mu­nities.

      (2) Through­out Manitoba, rural com­mu­nities are seeing dramatic increases in criminal activities targeting individuals and property, which has eroded their sense of safety.

      (3) Though com­mu­nities pay taxes for RCMP coverage, many have lost local policing as RCMP detachments consolidate. This situation is unaccept­able to com­mu­nities who expect a level of service and police pro­tec­tion.

      (4) The lack of com­mu­nity policing has led to many Manitobans losing faith in the rule of law and the availability of emergency services when they are needed.

      (5) The prov­incial gov­ern­ment has a respon­si­bility to act and ensure that com­mu­nities receive adequate services and coverage from police resources.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to imme­diately work with the RCMP to restore rural com­mu­nity policing and provide adequate resources to pro­tect Manitoba com­mu­nities.

      This petition is signed by Garry Patterson, John Halashewski, Gail Mauthe and many, many more Manitobans.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake-Gimli): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of the clinical and preventative service plan, construction for the new Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding community would greatly benefit from added diagnostic machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and computer-generated radio waves to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) The Portage la Prairie–Portage–(3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on No. 1 Highway in Southern Health/Santé Sud Health Authority. Currently there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

      (4) An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher services and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and Long Plain First Nation reserves. Indigenous peoples in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity to the new Portage regional health facility is the Southport airport. This aerodrome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI image–imaging services.

      (7) The average wait times for Manitobans to receive an MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

      This petition has been signed by Patricia Nichols, Charlotte Jones, and Joah [phonetic] Parker–sorry, Joan Parker and many, many, fine other Manitobans.

Elm Creek School Gymnasium

Mrs. Lauren Stone (Midland): Hon­our­able Speaker, I wish to present the following petition.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) All Manitoba students deserve access to appropriate physical education facilities, not only as a part of their education, but as a part of living an active and healthy life.

      (2) The current gymnasium at the Elm Creek School is insufficient for the needs of the student population. Physical education classes are overcrowded, and there is insufficient space for whole-school assemblies and events.

      (3) The current gym structure is aging and show­ing the impact of years of usage. Parents have sig­nificant safety concerns of the physical space and the aging electrical systems.

      (4) Uneven and heaving floors pose a safety risk for students participating in physical education classes or sports.

      (5) The existing ventilation system was designed to meet old standards for a smaller student population and poses serious risks for students.

      (6) The current facility is the only option available to students and, should it become inoperable, students at Elm Creek School would be deprived of physical education spaces.

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      (7) The government has a responsibility to make funds available to replace this aging infrastructure and provide appropriate activity and recreation activities to students in Elm Creek.

      We urge the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the government of Manitoba to imme­diately work with the Prairie Rose School Division to begin the process of replacing the gymnasium facilities at the Elm Creek School, in consultation with parents and the community.

      This is signed by Darryl Enns, Kennedy Dykun, Justice Dykun, and many, many more Manitobans.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): I wish to present the following petition.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of the clinical and preventative services plan, construction for the new Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding community would greatly benefit from added diagnostic machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and computer-generated radio waves to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on No. 1 Highway in the Southern Health/Santé Sud Health Authority. Currently there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

Mr. Tyler Blashko, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair

      An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher service and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and Long Plain reserves. Indigenous people in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity to the new Portage regional health facility is the Southport airport. This aerodrome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI imaging services.

      (7) The average wait time for Manitobans to receive an MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

      This has been signed by Janet Parker, Monica Grant, Myrna Hancock and many, many more Manitobans.

      Thank you, hon­our­able Speaker.

Prov­incial Road 210

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Provincial Road 210 is a 117.3-kilometre, or  72.8-mile highway, in the Eastman region of Manitoba that connects the towns and communities of Woodridge, Marchand, La Broquerie, Ste. Anne, Landmark, Linden, Île des Chênes and St. Adolphe.

      (2) A significant portion of Prov­incial Road 210 also runs through the constituency of La Vérendrye.

      (3) Prov­incial Road 210 is a significant com­muting route for Eastman families and also notably used by those in the agriculture, tourism, trade and commerce industries.

      (4) The condition of Prov­incial Road 210 from Woodridge to Highway No. 12 is in an unacceptable state of disrepair.

      (5) The planned pavement upgrade was promised more than 20 years ago when it was constructed with a flat surface suitable for pavement but has yet to be completed.

      (6) The condition of Prov­incial Road 210 from Woodridge to Highway 12 is in such bad shape that firefighters, police and paramedic services are severely delayed when responding to emergencies.

      (7) The Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure as well as the Premier have a duty to respond to infrastructure needs identified by rural communities.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure to prioritize the reconstruction of Provincial Road 210.

      (2) To urge the provincial government to include the stretch of Provincial Road 210 from Woodridge to Highway No. 12 in its reconstruction plans.

      This petition has been signed by Dylan Bell, Reed Sutherland, Marcel Lemire and many, many more Manitobans.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Mr. Ron Schuler (Springfield-Ritchot): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of a clinical and preventative services plan, construction for the new Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding community would greatly benefit from added diagnostic machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

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      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and computer-generated radio waves to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on the No. 1 Highway in the Southern Health/Santé Sud Health Authority. Currently, there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

      (4) An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher service and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and Long Plain First Nations reserves. Indigenous peoples in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity to the new Portage regional health facility is the Southport airport. This aerodome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI imaging services.

      (7) The average wait times for Manitobans to receive an MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

      This is signed by Arishya Aggarwal, Ajay Aggarwal, Judy Verwey and many other Manitobans.

Removal of Federal Carbon Tax

Mrs. Colleen Robbins (Spruce Woods): Hon­our­able Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the legislation Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) The federal gov­ern­ment has mandated a con­sump­tion‑based carbon tax, with the stated goal of financially pressuring Canadians to make decisions to reduce their carbon emissions.

      (2) Manitoba Hydro estimates that, even with a high‑efficiency furnace, the carbon tax is costing the average family over $200 annually, even more for those with older furnaces.

      (3) Home heating in Manitoba is not a choice or a decision for Manitobans to make; it is a necessity of life, with an average of almost 200 days below 0°C annually.

      (4) The federal gov­ern­ment has selectively removed the carbon tax off of home heating oil in the Atlantic provinces of Canada, but has indicated they have no in­ten­tion to provide the same relief to Manitobans heating their homes.

      (5) Manitoba indicates the–oh, sorry. Did I–okay. I'm going start with No. 5 again, sorry.

      Manitoba Hydro indicates that natural gas heating is one of the most affordable options available to Manitobans, and it can be cost prohibitive for house­holds to replace their heating source.

      (6) Premiers across Canada, including in the Atlantic provinces that benefit from this decision, have collectively sent a letter to the federal gov­ern­ment, calling on it to extend the carbon tax exemption to all forms of home heating, with the exception of Manitoba.

      (7) Manitoba is one of the only prov­incial juris­dic­tions to have not agreed with the stance that all Canadian homes–heating bills should be exempt from the carbon tax.

      (8) Prov­incial leadership in other juris­dic­tions have already committed to removing the federal carbon tax from home heating bills.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to remove the federal carbon tax on home heating bills for all Manitobans to provide them with much‑needed relief.

      This petition has been signed by Marlie Slack, Lezlie Husband and Morgan Somersall and many, many other Manitobans.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Mr. Jeff Wharton (Red River North): Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, I wish to present the following petition.

      To the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, the background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of the clinical and preventative services plan, construction for the new regional–Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding com­munity would greatly benefit from attic–added diagnostics, the machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

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      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and a computer-generated radio wave to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on the No. 1 Highway in the Southern Health/Santé Sud Health Authority. Currently there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

      (4) An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher services and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and Long Plain First Nation reserves. Indigenous peoples in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity of–or to the new Portage regional health facility is Southport airport. This aerodrome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI imaging services.

      Numéro sept [Number seven]: (7) The average wait times for Manitobans to receive an MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, we petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

      This petition is signed by Beverley MacDonald, Joanne Chudzir, Brenda McConnell and many, many Manitobans.

      Thank you, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker.

Prov­incial Trunk Highway 45

Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      These are the reasons for this petition:

      (1) Upgrading Provincial Trunk Highway 45 will accelerate economic development as it will enhance connectivity, facilitate efficient transportation and promote economic growth in the region.

      (2) Economic development will be further enhanced as improved road infrastructure attracts businesses, encourages investment and creates job opportunities.

      (3) Roads meeting the Roads and Transportation Association of Canada, RTAC, standards improve both safety and efficiency, as they can handle heavier loads, reducing the number of trips required for goods transportation.

      (4) Safer roads further benefit both commuters and commercial vehicles, minimizing accidents and damage.

      (5) Upgrading to RTAC standards ensures resilience to challenges caused by climate change, such as thawing and flooding, which negatively impact road conditions.

      (6) Efficient transportation networks contribute to Manitoba's economic competitiveness, as upgraded roads support interprovincial and international goods movement, benefiting both trade and commerce.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure to take the necessary steps to upgrade Provincial Trunk Highway 45 from Russell to Provincial Trunk Highway 10 to meet RTAC standards.

      This petition has been signed by Oliver Joslin, Leona Chipelski, Judy Usunier, and many, many, many other Manitobans.

      Thank you, hon­our­able Speaker.

Mr. Greg Nesbitt (Riding Mountain): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      These are the reasons for the petition:

      (1) Upgrading Provincial Trunk Highway 45 will accelerate economic development as it will enhance connectivity, facilitate efficient transportation and pro­mote economic growth in the region.

      (2) Economic development will be further enhanced as improved road infrastructure attracts businesses, encourages investment and creates job opportunities.

      (3) Roads meeting the Roads and Transportation Association of Canada, RTAC, standards improve both safety and efficiency, as they can handle heavier loads, reducing the number of trips required for goods transportation.

      (4) Safer roads further benefit both commuters and commercial vehicles, minimizing accidents and damage.

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      (5) Upgrading to RTAC standards ensures resilience to challenges caused by climate change, such as thawing and flooding, which negatively impact road conditions.

      (6) Efficient transportation networks contribute to Manitoba's economic competitiveness, as upgraded roads support interprovincial and international goods movement, benefiting both trade and commerce.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure to take the necessary steps to upgrade Provincial Trunk Highway 45 from Russell to Provincial Trunk Highway 10 to meet RTAC standards.

      This petition has been signed by William Kuz, Vincent Berg, Booth Ashcroft and many, many more Manitobans.

      Thank you, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker.

Support for Border Communities

Mr. Josh Guenter (Borderland): Hon­our­able Speaker, I wish to present the following petition.

      To the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, the back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Illegal border crossings into Manitoba have increased 14 per cent in 2024, raising sig­ni­fi­cant public safety and security concerns, parti­cularly in border com­mu­nities.

      (2) Changes to the Canada‑US Safe Third Country Agree­ment have driven migrants deeper into hiding to avoid apprehension, making law en­force­ment efforts more difficult.

      (3) Border patrol officials believe that criminal organi­zations, including Mexican cartels, are involved in smuggling operations at the border, posing serious security threats to Manitoba.

      (4) Human smuggling networks are abandoning vul­ner­able migrants, including families, in isolated and dangerous locations, exposing them to severe risks, especially during Manitoba's harsh winters.

      (5) Border com­mu­nities are preparing for a pos­sible surge in illegal border crossings, which could overwhelm local resources and emergency search-and-rescue services; and

      (6) Despite these challenges, there has been little com­muni­cation or support from the prov­incial and federal gov­ern­ments regarding their plans to assist border com­mu­nities, leaving them under‑resourced and unprepared to manage this escalating crisis.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to lobby the federal gov­ern­ment to develop and implement a comprehensive plan to assist border communities in managing the rise in illegal border crossings into Manitoba; and

      (2) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to work closely with federal and local author­ities to ensure adequate resources, including funding and support for emergency services, are available to protect local com­mu­nities; and that imme­diate measures be taken to dismantle and destroy all human smuggling net­works operating in Manitoba.

      This petition has been signed by Judy Peters, Mary Reimer, Ann Wolfe and many, many, many Manitobans.

Phoenix School

Mrs. Kathleen Cook (Roblin): I wish to present the following petition and the background to this petition is as follows:

      Phoenix School, a kindergarten to grade 5 school located in Headingley, has experienced consistent enrolment growth over the last several years. Enrolment is expected to reach 275 students in the next two years.

      Because the school is now over capacity, the school division has had to install portable classrooms on site as of fall 2024.

      For several consecutive years, the top capital priority of the St. James‑Assiniboia School Division has been the renovation and expansion of Phoenix School.

      In 2022, the Phoenix School expansion and renovation project was approved to proceed to the design phase. The project included, among other amenities, a new gymnasium, two new classrooms, a multi‑purpose room and room for 74 child‑care spaces.

      In June 2024, the school division received notice from the provincial government that the project has been deferred. There is no guarantee if, or when, the project will move forward.

      There are currently hundreds of children on a wait‑list for child care in Headingley. The daycare operator in Phoenix School has been told that they will continue to have space within the school for the 2024‑2025 school year only, that further expansion of child‑care space within the school is not possible and that space may be reduced moving forward due to the shortage of classrooms. If new space is not con­structed as planned, many families may be left without child care.

      It is critical that the expansion and renovation of Phoenix School proceed as planned in order to support the needs of students, teachers and families in the grow­ing community of Headingley.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to proceed with the planned renovation and expansion of Phoenix School without further delay.

      And this petition is signed by Margo Price, Kristie Todd, Michelle Ragasa, and many, many other Manitobans.

Op­posi­tion to Releasing Repeat Offenders

Mr. Wayne Balcaen (Brandon West): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Kellie Verwey, a beloved young woman from Portage la Prairie, Manitoba, was tragically killed in a car crash caused by a repeat violent offender with a long criminal history.

      (2) Despite repeated violations of his bail conditions, the offender was free to roam the streets and to ultimately claim Kellie's life. This tragedy was entirely preventable.

      (3) While the Criminal Code falls under federal jurisdiction, provinces have been given the respon­sibility for the administration of justice, allowing for meaningful provincial action on bail reform to ensure public safety.

      (4) Other provinces have taken proactive steps to strengthen bail enforcement, but Manitoba has not used all of the available tools to address this issue efficiently.

      (5) The provincial government has the ability and the responsibility to advocate for and implement measures that protect citizens by ensuring that repeat violent offenders are not released into our communities without proper safeguards.

      (6) Immediate action is required to close gaps in the justice system that allow dangerous criminals to remain free, which puts innocent Manitobans at risk.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

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      (1) To urge the provincial government to take immediate and decisive action on bail reform to address serious deficits in enforcement by utilizing all available provincial mechanisms to strengthen warrant enforcement, increasing bail supervision and opposing release of offenders, thus ensuring that repeat violent offenders are held accountable and public safety is prioritized over leniency; and

      (2) To urge the provincial government to lobby the federal government to immediately repeal provisions of the Criminal Code that allow for the continued victimization of law‑abiding Manitobans while granting repeat offenders additional rights.

      Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition was signed by Dallas Barber, Sandra Cullen, Sherwin Cabok [phonetic] and many, many other fine Manitobans.

      Thank you, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker.

Mr. Wayne Ewasko (Lac du Bonnet): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly, and the background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Kellie Verwey, a beloved young woman from Portage la Prairie, Manitoba, was tragically killed in a car crash caused by a repeat violent offender with a long criminal history.

      (2) Despite repeated violations of his bail con­ditions, the offender was free to roam the streets and to ultimately claim Kellie's life. This tragedy was entirely preventable.

      (3) While the Criminal Code falls under federal jurisdiction, provinces have been given the respon­sibility for the administration of justice, allowing for meaningful provincial action on bail reform to ensure public safety.

      (4) Other provinces have taken proactive steps to strengthen bail enforcement, but Manitoba has not used all of the available tools to address this issue effectively.

      (5) The provincial government has the ability and the responsibility to advocate for and implement measures that protect its citizens by ensuring that repeat violent offenders are not released into our communities without proper safeguards.

      (6) Immediate action is required to close gaps in the justice system that allow dangerous criminals to remain free, which puts innocent Manitobans at risk.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the provincial government to take immediate and decisive action on bail reform to address serious deficits in enforcement by utilizing all available provincial mechanisms to strengthen warrant enforcement, increasing bail supervision and opposing release of offenders, thus ensuring that repeat violent offenders are held accountable and that the public safety is prioritized over leniency; and

      (2) To urge the provincial government to lobby the federal government to immediately repeal provisions of the Criminal Code that allow for the continued victimization of law-abiding Manitobans while granting repeat offenders additional rights.

      Hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition is signed by Kennedy Hardridge [phonetic], Eric Harndry [phonetic] and Shelley Gray and many, many more fine Manitobans.

Funding Crime Cost Mitigation for Small Business

Mr. Doyle Piwniuk (Turtle Mountain): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba.

      The back­ground of this petition is as follows:

      (1) Small busi­nesses are vital to supporting their local economy and the prov­incial gov­ern­ment has the respon­si­bility to act and support them.

      (2) The recent increase in vigilantism shows that Manitobans do not trust the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to fulfill its respon­si­bility.

      (3) More than half–54 per cent–of small busi­nesses in Manitoba are impacted by crime. Property damage, theft, littering and public intoxication are some of the crimes that affect most busi­nesses, according to the Canadian Federation of In­de­pen­dent Busi­ness. There has been a 44 per cent increase in shoplifting incidences over the last year.

      (4) In order to combat the rise in crime, some busi­nesses try, unaided, and implement various out‑of‑pocket security measures and safety training for their staff and they face increasing costs when they are incurred property damage or theft.

      (5) Vandalism, break-ins and other senseless acts cannot be accepted as the cost of doing busi­ness; for businesses through­out Manitoba, the prov­incial gov­ern­ment must do more to ease the burdens small businesses are carrying with its catch‑and‑release justice system.

      (6) Failing to support small busi­nesses in failing the Manitoba economy, failing Manitoba families and failing Manitoba dreams–Manitobans' dreams.

      (7) The security rebate program in replace of the homeowners and small businesses does not cover the real costs of impacting busi­nesses, such as vandalism, property damage and repairs.

      We urge the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial government to support Manitoba small businesses through specific funding to reimburse the expenses, the insure deductibles that they incur as a result of crime.

      This has been signed by Chance Horn, Dwight Barre and Dirk Michaluk and many other fine Manitobans.

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Mr. Kelvin Goertzen (Steinbach): I wish to present the following petition to the Manitoba Legislature.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Thanks to the investment made under the previous PC provincial government as part of the clinical and preventative services plan, construction for the new Portage regional health facility is well under way. The facility and surrounding community would greatly benefit from added diagnostic machinery and equipment, but specifically the addition of an MRI machine.

      (2) An MRI machine is a non-invasive medical imaging technique that uses a magnetic field and computer-generated radio waves to create detailed images of organs and tissues in the human body. It is used for disease detection, diagnosis and treatment monitoring.

      (3) Portage la Prairie is centrally located in Manitoba and is on the No. 1 Highway in the Southern Health/Santé Sud Health Authority. Currently there is only one MRI machine in the RHA.

      (4) An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will reduce transportation costs for patients as well as reduce the burden on stretcher service and ambulance use. It will bring care closer to home and reduce wait times for MRI scans across the province.

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      (5) Located around Portage la Prairie are the Dakota Tipi, Dakota Plains, Sandy Bay and Long Plain First Nations reserves. Indigenous peoples in Canada disproportionately face barriers in access to services and medical care. An MRI machine located in the Portage regional health facility will bring care closer to their home communities and provide greater access to diagnostic testing.

      (6) Located in close proximity to the new Portage regional health facility is Southport airport. This aerodrome has a runway length that is more than adequate to support medical air ambulance services. This would provide the opportunity to transport patients by air from more remote communities to access MRI imaging services.

      (7) The average wait times for Manitobans to receive an MRI scan is currently six to eight months. Having an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility will help reduce these wait times for patients and provide better care sooner.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to support the investment and placement of an MRI machine in the Portage regional health facility in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

      And, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, this petition is signed by Kelly Robinson, Kimberly Nikkel, Jamie Morrisseau [phonetic] and many other fine Manitobans.

Green Valley School Expansion

Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): I wish to present the following petition.

      To the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, the back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) The residents of La Vérendrye and other areas around Manitoba are extremely frustrated and concerned by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment's decision to cancel the school expansion project for the Green Valley School in Grunthal.

      (2) In 2021, the PC prov­incial gov­ern­ment com­mitted funding to expand Green Valley School for a new gymnasium and classrooms.

      (3) The school is so crowded that three mobile classrooms were added to alleviate overcrowding in classrooms.

      (4) In order for construction to begin, the school removed all three portable classrooms, leaving Green Valley in a further critical state of overcrowding.

      (5) As a result of overcrowding, parents are choosing to home-school their children due to safety concerns and the challenges associated with over­crowding.

      (6) The current Premier of Manitoba and the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning have said they are committed to investing in edu­ca­tion.

      (7) The concerns of residents of La Vérendrye and the surrounding area are being ignored by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment.

      (8) The lack of space in the school is affecting the quality of edu­ca­tion and extracurricular activities for students.

      (9) The minister and Premier have a duty to respond to the edu­ca­tional needs of children and youth identified by rural com­mu­nities.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning to imme­diately bring back the three portable classrooms to help alleviate the stress and overcrowding classrooms.

      (2) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to reinstate the expansion project for Green Valley School.

      This petition has been signed by Kitana McDougal, Richard Heese, Rod West and many, many other Manitobans.

Op­posi­tion to Releasing Repeat Offenders

Mr. Trevor King (Lakeside): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

      And the background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Kellie Verwey, a beloved young woman from Portage la Prairie, Manitoba, was tragically killed in a car crash caused by a repeat violent offender with a long criminal history.

      (2) Despite repeated violations of his bail conditions, the offender was free to roam the streets and to ultimately claim Kellie's life. This tragedy was entirely preventable.

      (3) While the Criminal Code falls under the federal jurisdiction, provinces have been given the responsibility for the administration of justice, allowing for meaningful provincial action on bail reform to ensure public safety.

      (4) Other provinces have taken proactive steps to strengthen bail enforcement, but Manitoba has not used all the available tools to address this issue effectively.

      (5) The provincial government has the ability and the responsibility to advocate for and implement measures that protect its citizens by ensuring that repeat violent offenders are not released into our communities without proper safeguards.

      (6) Immediate action is required to close gaps in the justice system that allow dangerous criminals to remain free, which puts innocent Manitobans at risk.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the provincial government to take immediate and decisive action on bail reform to address serious deficits in enforcement by utilizing all available provincial mechanisms to strengthen warrant enforcement, increasing bail supervision and opposing release of offenders, thus ensuring the repeat violent offenders are held accountable and that public safety is prioritized over leniency; and

      (2) To urge the provincial government to lobby the federal government to immediately repeal provisions of the Criminal Code that allow for the continued victimization of law-abiding Manitobans while granting repeat offenders additional rights.

      This petition has been signed by Amanda Clemis, Rod deLaroque, Matt Park and many, many Manitobans.

      Thank you.

Morden Waste Water Project

Mrs. Carrie Hiebert (Morden-Winkler): I wish to present the following petition.

      To the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, the back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Between 2011 and 2021, Morden's population grew by an impressive 27 per cent, outpacing the national average by 16 per cent, according to Statistics Canada.

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      (2) While growth is welcome and encouraged, Morden has long faced a critical need for infra­structure upgrades to meet current demands and support future development.

      (3) Morden's waste water system has operated beyond capacity for years, prompting the Province in 2019 to halt property subdivisions due to insufficient water–waste water storage.

      (4) As of 2024, after exploring all options, the city announced in July that the estimated cost for critical infrastructure upgrades has risen from $70 million to $88 million and to $108 million.

      (5) These revised estimates leave Morden with a significant funding shortfall of 13 to 33 million dollars.

      (6) Despite efforts to address the gap, including plans to raise utility fees for residents and businesses, such increases that have been delayed since 2017 due to the lack of an approved capital project, taxation is not enough.

      (7) The lack of waste water capacity has severely impacted economic activity and growth in Morden and surrounding communities. Without much‑needed waste water infrastructure investments, growth and economic development will be hindered in all of southern Manitoba.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the provincial government to take immediate action and recognize the critical need of this waste water project for economic growth and environmental sustainability by committing to advo­cating and working with the federal government to close the gap with additional funding for Morden's waste water treatment system.

      (2) To urge the provincial government to ensure all levels of government and regulatory bodies will expedite necessary funding and approvals necessary to advance the Morden waste water project with no further delay and ensure no hindrance to growth and economic development for Morden and southern Manitoba.

      This petition was signed by Karen‑Denise Cyr, John McLean [phonetic], Tammy Hendrickx and many, many other Manitobans

The Deputy Speaker: Seeing no further petitions.

Grievances

Mr. Kelvin Goertzen (Steinbach): I rise on a grievance, which, members will know, members only have one per legis­lative session to bring forward issues of concern to them and to their con­stit­uencies. So I don't do this lightly, knowing it is my only op­por­tun­ity to do so during this session.

      But as I've listened to debates and I've heard our esteemed Finance critic pose im­por­tant questions to the Finance Minister, parti­cularly with the issue regarding the Province's commit­ment and yet inability, it seems, to balance the budget, I feel that I do need to bring forward the concerns that I've been hearing from my con­stit­uents and also from Manitobans more broadly.

      Spe­cific­ally–and I'll be honest and clear as I can on this issue, hon­our­able Deputy Speaker, while staying within parlia­mentary language–my con­stit­uents don't believe this gov­ern­ment. They simply don't believe the commit­ment that was made two years ago that they were going to balance the budget.

      They don't believe it for a lot of reasons. I mean, some of it's historical; we used to hear the former Selinger gov­ern­ment say, each and every year, that they were either going to reduce the deficit or balance the budget; more often they would say they would reduce the deficit, and they missed their targets each and every year.

      I don't remember a year that the Selinger gov­ern­ment was in power they actually met their target, and the fact that I would say to members opposite, if you'd go back and look at the budgets that were brought forward by the NDP gov­ern­ment at that time and the targets that they set out for deficit reduction, they not only never met them, they missed them in an extra­ordin­ary way.

      And, of course, we know what happened as a result of that: Ultimately, taxes were increased and then there was the big tax increase. There were lots of tax increases that were bigger from a financial perspective than the PST, but the one that caught the attention of the public, of course, was the PST because it was so visible and so obvious, and then Manitobans drew the connection between the massive deficits that the NDP were running and the fact that they had to pay for those deficits in an imme­diate sort of way.

      And so that is why Manitobans are now coming to me and saying: What is going on here? We have a prov­incial gov­ern­ment that was left with a very healthy surplus from the previous gov­ern­ment. [interjection] I'm glad to hear that members opposite are agreeing with that. I hear ministers saying, yes, that's right; we were left with a surplus. I'm glad that they confirm that. In fact, they actually confirmed that at Public Accounts when the Auditor's Report for that parti­cular year was brought forward. They voted in favour of the Auditor's Report because they knew it to be true. If they would have had any concerns, I'm sure they would have raised it at that point.

      And so now that all members of the House have confirmed the surplus–the NDP and, of course, this side, and I suspect the Liberals would be in favour of that as well, but I know that they have other issues that are going on too. The issue, when it comes to the surplus, is specific around–there was a good shape. There was a good op­por­tun­ity for the gov­ern­ment to still be able to bring in their own programs that they ran on and maintain a good financial situation.

      But what did they do instead? They brought in a record surplus in a non‑flood, non‑pandemic year. They then said there was going to be a bunch of targets that they were going to try to meet when it came to the deficit. And, surprise, surprise; they've missed every target–every one. They haven't met a single target.

      Now I've heard the Minister of Environ­ment chirp­ing over there. That's a person who knows about missing targets. He absolutely knows about missing targets–environ­mental targets, every other kind of target. But in this parti­cular case, when it comes to environ­mental targets–[interjection] I know–he's still going now–he's riled up now, because he knows when there's nothing that hurts more than the truth. And for the Minister of Environ­ment this is the truth, so this one stings more deeply than anything else.

      But if he actually had the op­por­tun­ity to speak to the Minister of Finance (MLA Sala)–I actually don't know who talks to each other there or anymore, if they actually talk to each other–but if he actually talked to the Minister of Finance, he could ask him the poignant question: When exactly and how are we actually going to balance this budget that we promised two years ago? Because every year that the budget comes out or the quarterly updates come out, they're getting further and further away from that. They missed their deficit projections more, more and more.

      Of course, we all know what's going on in the economy. There's great uncertainty with the tariffs that have been brought in by the United States, tariffs that we're facing from China, tariffs from other countries, great uncertainty from a fiscal perspective.

      Now, the federal Liberals have already said that they're going to be bringing in a massive deficit in the tens and tens of billions of dollars. They've already forecast to Canadians to buckle up, put your helmets on, get ready for the mother of all deficits when it comes to the federal Liberal gov­ern­ment. That, apparently, is coming in about three weeks. Of course, they don't want to bring in a budget at all. They apparently were going to run the country without ever bringing in a budget, but they were forced to bring in one this fall.

      But the mother of all deficits, this is going to be coming in from the federal gov­ern­ment. They've already prepared us for that.

      Meanwhile, you know, we've got the Finance Minister here who is going along and saying, don't worry; be happy. Every­thing's fine. And yet when you look at the books, you clearly know that's not true. The last financial update that they put out with the quarterly report, it was clear they're missing every projection, again, just like the Selinger gov­ern­ment.

      In fact, I don't think there's been an NDP gov­ern­ment, when you combine the Kinew gov­ern­ment and the Selinger gov­ern­ment, that's actually met a fiscal quarterly target in about six or seven years. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I think they've actually missed every one of those targets for six or seven years.

      But the Finance Minister says, oh, don't worry; be happy. Somehow we're going to magically balance this budget.

      Now I did hear the minister–or the Premier (Mr. Kinew)–say, oh, yes, I've given targets now to the de­part­ments. He said this at a press conference, an unrelated press conference, a few days ago. He said, I've given targets to the de­part­ment for all of them to cut their budgets.

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      Now, that'll be interesting to see which ministers are actually going to come forward and try to meet those targets–what that actually looks like. We certainly are hearing things in the com­mu­nity–is Child and Family Services and other regional agencies are coming and saying, hey, we've been told to cut this; we've been told to cut that. So we're going to find out exactly what those cuts are.

      But I think it is incumbent upon the gov­ern­ment to be clear with Manitobans, and with Canadians, really. Because at a time when we have this great uncertainty, it's incumbent upon all gov­ern­ments across our country to be trans­par­ent about what the financial situation truly is. Busi­nesses need to know, Manitobans need to know. We don't know what kind of a trade deal, if any, we're going to get with the Americans; of course, we hope that we get a good deal. We actually hoped that they would continue to live under CUSMA because we think that deal was just fine. But what­ever's going to happen, we need to know what our prospect is for trade; we need to know what the prospect is for tariffs. But just as im­por­tantly in Manitoba, we need to know what the prospect is for the finances.  

      What is the deficit going to be? Let's put aside the issue of the balanced budget. I don't think anybody in this House or in the public believes that the NDP gov­ern­ment is ever going to balance the budget. I don't think they believe that if the times were good, if the crops were full, if there was no tariffs, if there was record surpluses from the federal gov­ern­ment–which I think there actually are, right now–that they would ever balance the budget even then. Nobody actually believes that the NDP is going to balance the budget in good times, let alone difficult times. But then the question is: What's going to happen?

      So if the Treasury Board through the Minister of Finance (Mr. Sala) sent memos out to all the different de­part­ments, and they would've done it already at this time of the year, that this is your target for expenditures that you have to meet, and to drill down those savings, Manitobans need to know: What are those targets? What are the ex­pect­a­tions for–that are going to come, that are going to hurt Manitobans? And what is that deficit going to be that, ultimately, it's going to have to be repaid through higher taxes by Manitobans? We need to know that.

      Now, there are different ways that the Minister of Finance could do that. I suppose he could bring in a fall economic statement; I don't suspect that's going to happen. He could simply bring forward more clarity on the quarterly reports. He could bring forward a revised budget. There are actually lots of different ways that the Finance Minister could bring that forward.

      The only thing that isn't acceptable is to continue on with the blinders and just say, yes, we're going to balance the budget. Don't worry, we're going to some­how magically balance the budget. Even though we took a 300‑and-some million-dollar surplus and turned it into a $2‑billion deficit, we're somehow going to balance this budget. Nobody believes it; nobody feels that's going to happen.

      And I know, there's some, you know, magical pixie dust going over there, and we saw the Premier come out and bring forward an economic plan that says we're going to grow the economy in 2040 or 2050 or some­thing like that, when probably nobody, maybe other than the member for Elmwood (MLA Maloway), is actually going to be in this House still in 2050. But, I mean, that's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that in 2050 we're going to actually turn around and try to grow the budget at the time.

      So–[interjection] Well, I'm glad to hear that the Minister of Families (MLA Fontaine) is concerned about my future and my well-being, I ap­pre­ciate that. She's got lots of other concerns she should be worried about–sorry, the Minister of Housing and Addictions. Minister of Families clearly has other problems too. There's lots of problems over on that side of the House and I'm not trying to fix any of them.

      The only one that I'm trying to deal with today is to ensure that the Minister of Finance (MLA Sala) is clear with Manitobans, that he actually brings forward the clear facts to Manitobans, what is actually hap­pening on the finances. Nobody believes there's going to be a balanced budget. But where are the targets for cuts coming from, what are Manitobans going to have to pay in the future because of missing all of those targets and turning a surplus into a deficit, and how much and how deep are they going to be reaching into our pockets?

      Thank you very much, Deputy Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker: The hon­our­able member for La Vérendrye, on a grievance.

Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): I rise today on a grievance. It's one with deep concern, on behalf of Manitoba farm families. As my colleague, the member for Steinbach (Mr. Goertzen), had mentioned and pointed out that we don't rise on a grievance just because of anything, as we only have one per session. But watching the action or inaction of this gov­ern­ment and the Ag Minister over the past several months, now going on two years, it's some­thing that I felt needed to be brought forward.

      Our producers who grow the food that sustains us and drives one of Manitoba's most im­por­tant economic engines are facing escalating pressure from tariffs imposed by the United States and China. These two countries are Manitoba's top destinations for agri­cul­tural products, and when trade barriers go up, no province feels it harder than ours.

      Sadly, this NDP gov­ern­ment and especially the Minister of Agri­cul­ture (Mr. Kostyshyn) has failed to take any meaningful action. Instead, they have attempted to pass off existing programs as tariff supports while doing nothing new to address the specific crisis at hand. This gov­ern­ment owes producers honesty and real solutions, not smoke and mirrors.

      The minister has re­peat­edly pointed to long-standing busi­ness risk manage­ment programs admin­istered by Manitoba agri­cul­ture services cor­por­ation, programs like crop insurance, wildlife damage com­pensation, the AgriInvest and other programs. But let's be clear: crop insurance is not tariff support; wildlife predation and damage insurance is not tariff support; AgriInvest is not tariff support.

      These are long-standing programs, costs shared with Ottawa, designed to help producers manage normal production risks, not global trade wars. To suggest otherwise is not only misleading, it is an insult to the intelligence of Manitoba farm families.

      Is this gov­ern­ment really trying to snow producers into believing nothing needs to be done because the status quo is good enough? Does the Minister of Agri­cul­ture truly believe crop insurance, a program based on actuarial science and weather risks, suddenly qualifies as a tariff relief program?

      I suspect the minister knows better. In fact, I believe the minister understands full well what the challenges are. He's a farmer himself, as am I. We both come from multi‑generational farm families. We know what it means to face risk, to manage uncertainty and, in those tough years, to depend on gov­ern­ments for fair and honest support. That's why it's so frustrating to watch this minister forced to repeat these ridiculous talking points that even he knows are misleading because they are not true supports for the tariffs.

      In question period, he has admitted these pro­grams are set by federal‑prov­incial agree­ments with allocations deter­mined by MASC and their actuaries, not by his gov­ern­ment. That tells me he knows the limits of these tools, but instead of being trusted with the resources and freedom to stand up with farmers and to stand up for farmers, he's being held back.

      When the questions get difficult in this Chamber, the Premier (Mr. Kinew) himself jumps up to rescue him. We have seen this time and time again, not just with Agri­cul­ture but with so many of his ministers. Does the Premier not trust his own Cabinet to answer the questions?

      I can certainly understand why he wouldn't: there isn't a ton of real‑world ex­per­ience over there, which makes the sidelining of the Minister of Agri­cul­ture so disappointing. Here's a minister who actually has some real ex­per­ience in their portfolio. Here's a minister who's not a pro­fes­sional activist like many of the others over there; he's an actual farmer. Yet, the Premier doesn't trust him to speak for farmers. Or is he afraid, if given the chance, these ministers might finally speak honestly and, in doing so, bring down the carefully curated house of cards that this gov­ern­ment has built up?

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      Either way, Manitobans can see it plainly. When the tough questions come, the Premier grabs the wheel. The ministers sit silently, avert their eyes, and Manitobans are left with the cheesy, dis­ingen­uous pep talk rather than real answers.

      This gov­ern­ment's inaction is especially troubling given the scale of this specific problem. China's retaliatory tariffs on Canadian canola, soybeans and pork have struck a direct low–a direct blow to Manitoba producers. Each year Manitoba exports over $1‑billion worth of canola and soybeans to China alone. Pork exports regularly top hundreds of millions of dollars. These are not abstract numbers. They represent farm income, jobs in processing and the backbone of our rural com­mu­nities. These numbers represent real Manitobans.

      When those markets slam their doors on Manitoba's exports, our producers are left with nowhere to turn. Bin-busting harvests become worthless when there are no markets to access. Livestock herds can't simply be paused while gov­ern­ments wring their hands. Every day without action is another day of lost income and lost op­por­tun­ity for Manitoba farm families.

      The NDP gov­ern­ment knows these numbers. They know the impact, and yet they remain silent. The Premier is leading partisan pep rallies, the minister is missing and farmers are shaking their heads.

      Now, contrast this with what we've seen else­where. When tariffs began to hit, the federal gov­ern­ment stepped up. They brought forward increased loan limits under the Advanced Payments Program. Producers could access up to $1 million in loans, with a quarter‑million interest free to help manage cash flow during market disruptions.

The Speaker in the Chair

      Was this perfect? Course not, but it at least was a concrete measure that acknowledged the problem.

      Compare to our neighbours: Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe led a trade mission to China to stand shoulder to shoulder with their producers to keep doors open, to keep the con­ver­sa­tion going and to make the case for prairie producers. As a result, they've suc­cess­fully opened up Asian markets in the tune of $10 billion. That's $10 billion for Saskatchewan farmers, but it also means $10 billion of ag sales for Canada.

      But Manitoba? Nowhere to be seen.

      Here's the point I want to make clear: I believe the minister knows better. He's a farmer, like some other 15,000 Manitoba families. He has seen the challenges first‑hand, and I don't doubt that he understands what it takes.

      At the end of the day, this grievance is about trust. Farmers need to be able to trust their gov­ern­ment will have their backs when global forces beyond their control threaten their livelihoods. Right now that trust is being broken.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

House Business

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Acting Gov­ern­ment House Leader): Could you please canvass the House to see if there is leave for the following limited debate provisions to apply tomorrow, October 16, 2025, for the con­sid­era­tion of con­dol­ence motions for Herold Driedger, Harry Schellenberg and Gérard Lécuyer: (1) up to two members from recog­nized parties and each in­de­pen­dent member may speak to each motion; and (2) each member may speak for up to 10 minutes.

      Furthermore, is there leave for con­sid­era­tion of the con­dol­ence motions to occur imme­diately following oral questions tomorrow, postponing petitions and grievances until a con­sid­era­tion of the motions is complete?

The Speaker: Is there leave for the following limited debate provisions to apply tomorrow, October 16, 2025, for the con­sid­era­tion of con­dol­ence motions for Herold Driedger, Harry Schellenberg and Gérard Lécuyer. Up to two members from recog­nized parties and each in­de­pen­dent member may speak to each motion, and each member may speak for up to 10 minutes.

      Furthermore, is there leave for con­sid­era­tion of the con­dol­ence motions to occur imme­diately follow­ing oral questions tomorrow, postponing petitions and grievances until con­sid­era­tion of the motions is complete.

      Is there leave? [Agreed]

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MLA Schmidt: Can you please call the start of third reading of Bill 12, The Housing and Renewal Cor­por­ation Amend­ment Act; followed by the start of third reading of Bill 40, an act respecting O Canada and other observances and land treaty acknowledgements in schools, the edu­ca­tion administration act and public schools act amended; followed by second reading debate of Bill 49, The Manitoba Public Insurance Corpor­ation Amend­ment Act (2).

The Speaker: It has been announced that we will now move to concurrence and third reading of Bill 12, The Housing and Renewal Cor­por­ation Amend­ment Act; followed by Bill 40, an act respecting O Canada and other observances and land treaty acknowledgements in schools, edu­ca­tion administration act and public schools act amended; followed by debate on second reading of Bill 49, The Manitoba Public Insurance Cor­por­ation Amend­ment Act (2).

Concurrence and Third Readings

Bill 12–The Housing and Renewal Corporation Amendment Act

The Speaker: So we will now move to concurrence and third reading of Bill 12, The Housing and Renewal Cor­por­ation Amend­ment Act.

Hon. Bernadette Smith (Minister of Housing, Addictions and Homelessness): I move, second by the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning (MLA Schmidt), that Bill 12, the housing renewal cor­por­ation amend­ment act, reported from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Justice, be concurred in and now be read for the third time and passed.

The Speaker: Been moved by the hon­our­able Minister of Housing, Addictions and Homelessness, seconded by the hon­our­able Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning, that Bill 12, The Housing and Renewal Cor­por­ation Amend­ment Act, reported from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Justice, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed.

Ms. Smith: I'm so proud that our gov­ern­ment has taken action to help protect the invest­ments of all Manitobans in the supply of social and affordable housing through the intro­duction of Bill 12, an amend­­­ment to the housing and renewal cor­por­ation amend­ment act.

      When the former Lions Place seniors' non‑profit housing was sold to an Alberta‑based, for‑profit real estate company in 2023, Manitoba lost social and affordable housing units, and tenants saw sig­ni­fi­cant rent increases, and Manitobans lost their invest­ment in a central downtown building.

      It became clear to us on this side of the House, Hon­our­able Speaker, that future sales or changes of owner­ship of housing that received public funds required some future checks and balances. While the former Conservative gov­ern­ment was able to protect the sale of Lions Place, it sold hundreds of social housing units at 185 Smith St.

      The passing of Bill 12 protects Manitobans and the non-profit housing supply. Owners of prov­incially-funded buildings or federally funded under the Social Housing Agree­ment wanting to sell will now have to receive the consent of Manitoba Housing and Renewal Cor­por­ation prior to selling, demolishing or changing the use of their building.

      Members opposite have suggested that Bill 12 will have a cooling effect on dev­elop­ment. I would suggest that when those members were in gov­ern­ment, they cancelled the building of hundreds of social and affordable housing units and sold social housing. The only cooling effect on dev­elop­ment in this province is a Tory gov­ern­ment.

      Bill 12 will help protect the long-term security of public invest­ments in social and affordable housing and support our gov­ern­ment priorities. It is im­por­tant to Manitobans, and that there is an adequate supply of affordable housing, and that housing remains afford­able to low to moderate income tenants.

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      Bill 12 will apply to approximately 152 existing projects, or over 5,000 rental units will be protected by this legis­lation when it comes into effect on January 1, 2026.

      Bill 12 will go a long way towards provi­ding a needed measure of control over the sale or transfer of buildings that have received public funding and will help preserve our social and affordable housing stock for gen­era­tions to come.

      I want to thank all of the Manitobans that came to present at com­mit­tee and thank all of the non‑profits and those that are helping to keep social and affordable housing here in Manitoba.

      Miigwech. Merci.

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): Hon­our­able Speaker, thank you for this op­por­tun­ity. As the critic for housing, homelessness and addictions, I thought it was im­por­tant that I get up and put a few words on the record about this that might not have come through com­mit­tee.

      The–there's a few things with this bill, and I think we need all Manitobans, all those that are watching today, to be aware of some of these things. So some of the things are: this bill will discourage invest­ment in social housing; this bill will make the affordable housing crisis even worse by discouraging developers from investing in housing; this bill meddles in the real estate market and will discourage developers from creating new housing units; this bill will hurt Manitobans looking for affordable housing.

      Again, I talked about it meddling in the real estate market, and that's where a lot of our infor­ma­tion came from, was from the real estate market and developers that spoke out to us. It will discourage investors from creating new housing units. This bill will make the affordable housing crisis even worse by discouraging investors from creating new units.

      The bill is bad for Manitoba families looking to purchase affordable housing. Developers will be discouraged from partnering with gov­ern­ment to build new housing units because the gov­ern­ment will con­trol whether or not their assets can be sold.

      Few questions that we heard from some of the people were: Why is the gov­ern­ment meddling in the open real estate market? Will housing costs increase because of a lack of invest­ment from developers who don't want to partner with the gov­ern­ment? This bill will cause housing developers to flee our province. Why is the gov­ern­ment meddling in this? How will this help our current housing crisis and affordable living for Manitoba right now?

      The housing and renewable cor­por­ations amend­ment act–this legis­lation intro­duced by the NDP gov­ern­ment may sound good on paper, but let's be clear: it will do the exact opposite of what Manitobans need.

      We see the affordability issues that Manitobans are running into right now, including the cost of groceries which this NDP gov­ern­ment said that they were going to force grocery stores to hold the prices on that. By doing that, it affects the amount of money that people can spend on their housing needs.

      So now, does the person that's looking at buying a house, does he decide whether to make a housing payment or whether to buy groceries? Whether to pay for child care, whether to buy groceries? Or whether to buy a new house or find a place to live?

      At the time when Manitoba families across Manitoba are struggling to buy groceries, to afford utilities, find affordable homes, when rents are rising and when the housing crisis is at its absolute worst in decades under this failed NDP gov­ern­ment, this bill will make matters even worse if that's even possible.

      Instead of encouraging invest­ment in affordable housing, it discourages developers from building. Instead of creating more options for families, it will scare away the very partners we need. Instead of solutions, once again, this gov­ern­ment has put up red tape and barriers to make it nearly impossible.

      Bill 12 is bad for Manitoba. It's bad for invest­ment, it's bad for families and it's bad for the future in our housing province. We talked about, at com­mit­tee, about developers that had come forward. In fact, there was a com­mit­tee of them that came forward to speak to us, and again, they want to do busi­ness in this province. But again, this gov­ern­ment is handcuffing them from doing busi­ness, so now they are looking elsewhere to find places to do busi­ness where it is much easier to do busi­ness.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitobans know the reality. Families in Winnipeg, Brandon, Thompson, Portage la Prairie, Steinbach and every com­mu­nity in between are struggling to find a home. It's some of the most calls that I get in my office, are regarding the issues around housing: Where will we find affordable housing? How can we find affordable housing? But this gov­ern­ment continue to discourage developers from doing that because if the developer does happen to want to sell his unit, he has to get the gov­ern­ment's approval on that.

      Young couples trying to buy their first house are priced out of the market. Seniors on fixed incomes are worried about rising rents. Low‑income Manitobans waiting for social housing see this list get longer and longer and longer every day.

      After spending so much time at Oak Tree Towers in Portage la Prairie where there was a number of issues that, again, the gov­ern­ment accused me of exaggerating, but obviously there was a problem in there because they were able to get rid of the problem. And I want to thank the people of Oak Tree Towers for their advocacy to make sure that their issues do not go unnoticed.

      What Manitobans need right now is more invest­ment. We need more building. We need more part­ner­ships that deliver new units. We need developers who are willing to work with gov­ern­ment, with non‑profits and with com­mu­nities to add to our housing supply. But Bill 12 sends the opposite message. If you build in Manitoba, if you invest in Manitoba, if you create new housing units in Manitoba, you may not have the op­por­tun­ity or the freedom to manage your own assets. Can you believe that?

      The people that build the buildings do not have the freedom to manage their own assets. You will have to go cap in hand to the gov­ern­ment for permission to sell, to divest or to move your assets. So what happens if that developer passes on? What happens if that developer wants to sell his busi­ness? What happens if some­thing tragically happens to that developer?

      So then, the estate has to go to the gov­ern­ment, cap in hand: Are we allowed to sell this property? Well, no, they're not, because the gov­ern­ment is in control of that. That, Hon­our­able Speaker, is not a recipe for invest­ment. That is a recipe for developers fleeing our province.

      And I can tell you that that's what's happening right now with a number of our investors that are building housing units in Manitoba. They've said no more. We cannot afford to do busi­ness here. So they're doing busi­ness, whether it's in the east, or the west, or in other countries, but they are not being hamstrung by a gov­ern­ment that is not willing to deal with them. They are discouraging invest­ment here in Manitoba.

* (16:40)

      Let's not pretend otherwise. Developers and investors have choices. They can build in Manitoba, or they can take their capital to Saskatchewan, Alberta, Ontario or anywhere else in Canada, where those gov­ern­ments are standing with open arms, waiting for them to come to their province; waiting for them to build more doors; waiting for them to provide more tax money for those provinces when we could be having it here in Manitoba. They can choose to invest here or they can choose to invest where gov­ern­ments welcome them, not where gov­ern­ments inter­fere with their decisions.

      Bill 12 tells developers, the NDP doesn't trust you. Bill 12 tells investors, I'm sorry, Manitoba is closed for busi­ness. And what happens when the developers walk away? What happens when the investors say, no. No more. I am tired of somebody meddling in this real estate market. The supply of housing shrinks. The cost of housing continues to go up and up and up. The waiting list for affordable housing gets longer and longer. And we're seeing that in my own home com­mu­nity. As I said before, most of the questions that we get in our offices is, How can I afford to live here anymore? There is no available housing for me.

      And the problem with that is because the gov­ern­ment wants to meddle in the real estate busi­ness. And what happens when developers walk away? What happens when investors say no? As we said before, this list just keeps growing and growing.

      This bill doesn't just discourage dev­elop­ment; it worsens the housing crisis. It punishes Manitobans looking for an affordable home. Gov­ern­ment meddling in the market.

      Mr. Speaker–Hon­our­able Speaker–my apologies, housing markets are complex. They work when gov­ern­ments create stability, predictability and fair rules. They fail–they fail–when the gov­ern­ment meddles, when the gov­ern­ment second-guesses them, when the gov­ern­ment inserts itself into decisions that are best left to partners right here on the ground.

      Bill 12 is the gov­ern­ment meddling at its worst. It requires developers to seek prov­incial permission to sell their own asset. It creates red tape, uncertainty and delay. And in real estate, uncertainty kills invest­ment.

      We're also concerned because of–some of the developers have said to me they're concerned with some of the language that's coming from the Premier (Mr. Kinew), in saying that they are favouring unions to build these projects over non‑union. Basically, what they're doing is they're splitting the province. They're pitting us against each other, and we want to, on this side of the gov­ern­ment–or this side of the aisle, we want to see this province continue to grow.

      Why would any developer risk partnering with gov­ern­ment if the gov­ern­ment ultimately controls where their assets can ever be sold? Why would any builder take on a risk when the gov­ern­ment has the final say on what they can and cannot do with the property? Where is it? Why is the gov­ern­ment meddling in their real estate busi­ness?

      Hon­our­able Speaker, this is not a part­ner­ship; this is control and it will backfire. It will impact families. Let us never forget who pays the price. It's not the developers. It's not the investors. It's those people: our seniors, our families, our single people of Manitoba that will suffer under this NDP's decision to take this on.

      Sorry–families are already facing record inflation, record food costs and record rent increases. We'll see–we will see fewer housing units built because of this bill. Families waiting for social housing will have to wait longer. Families saving for their first home will be pushed further and further away. These families, if they see an op­por­tun­ity to move to another province that is far more hospitable to them, far more easier for them to buy a house, far more better and easier for them to get into social-assisted living, why would they not do that? Why do we have to take this kind of a position? Why are we ruining invest­ment in Manitoba?

      The Progressive Conservative caucus is united in our op­posi­tion to this legis­lation. We oppose it because it meddles uncertain–un­neces­sarily in the real estate market. We oppose it because it will discourage invest­ment in social housing, and we oppose it because it will make Manitoba's housing affordability crisis even worse than it is today.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitoba families deserve better. They deserve a gov­ern­ment that makes it easier to build, not harder. They deserve a government that attracts invest­ment, not one that drives it away. They deserve a gov­ern­ment that puts people first, not one that uses legis­lation to score political points. [interjection]

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I understand from the other side of the bench–is ridiculing me on this, but it's tough to hear the truth, and I know that's going to bother the other side of the bench.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Bill 12 is the wrong bill at the wrong time. It will discourage invest­ment. It will scare developers. What Manitoba needs is more homes, more invest­ment, more part­ner­ship and more op­por­tun­ities for families. What Bill 12 delivers is the exact opposite: fewer homes, less invest­ment, fewer part­ner­ships and fewer op­por­tun­ities. This is the wrong message we need to share with Manitobans because Manitobans deserve better than inter­ference. They deserve better than red tape. They deserve better than higher housing costs. They deserve solutions, and Bill 12 is not a solution; it's a problem.

      But I also want to talk about some of the amend­ments that we tried to intro­duce while in com­mit­tee. And, again, is 15 per cent of an invest­ment by the, you know, that the Province puts in, is that really worthwhile for the investors to put their money behind? I say no, and I think we all agree on that. We say no to that.

      If this gov­ern­ment really wants invest­ment in Manitoba, then let's make this a true part­ner­ship like we proposed in the amend­ments in the House, and that was to create a 50 per cent part­ner­ship. We also need to limit the amount of time before an investor can either move on that property. Again, one of the reasons behind that is we need to make sure that if we are–that if somebody passes away, if a busi­ness is sold, if there's a bank­ruptcy involved, then what happens to that? Their hands are tied behind their backs, and they can't do that.

* (16:50)

      So, again, it makes those real estate developers that are looking to continue to do busi­ness in Manitoba–it gives them a reason to leave. And that reason to leave is because of other op­por­tun­ities with much friendlier provinces, like we talked about. So, again, that's the op­por­tun­ities that we need to be sure of.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, if I can just take a moment here as well, too. Some of the questions, you know, again, that we asked there, and again I'll ask them again while it's my last time to speak on this, is why is this gov­ern­ment openly meddling in the real estate market? Is the next move for them to be completely entrenched in the real estate busi­ness?

      Will housing costs increase because of a lack of invest­ment from developers, who don't want to partner with this gov­ern­ment? That was a question, again, that was never answered.

      This bill will cause housing developers to flee the province. Do we really, really need more un­em­ploy­ment and more people to leave our province? How bad is it when the real estate developers have said to me, please, take this infor­ma­tion for us, please do what you can as this PC team, to try and get the NDP gov­ern­ment to see the light, that this is not going to be good for dev­elop­ment. But they said please, please don't use our names, because we are so afraid of retribution.

      What does that say for this country, when some of our biggest developers, some of the people that are providing so much money to this province, and that's what happens. Our PC Party opposes this legis­lation as it meddles un­neces­sarily in the real estate market and will discourage invest­ment in social housing in the midst of an affordable crisis.

      I realize that we are in third reading on this, but Manitoba, you deserve answers, and answers we could not get. I apologize for not being able to give my con­stit­uency or the real estate developers any answers out there. We did what we could, but again, this NDP gov­ern­ment has decided they should be in the real estate busi­ness.

      So again, that's unfor­tunate, because we are going to see skyrocketing in prices. We are going to see people without housing. We are going to see things like encampments continue to grow because there is no place, nowhere, for these people to live.

      So in saying that, Hon­our­able Speaker, I would like to thank this–you for this time and thank you for this space. Thank you.

Mrs. Carrie Hiebert (Morden-Winkler): I'm honoured to be able to rise today to speak on Bill 12. It's some­thing that I've been looking over and, you know, consulting with the com­mu­nity and different organi­zations in the province for the last several months. And I heard a lot of really great infor­ma­tion from con­stit­uents, from those investing in our housing dev­elop­ments in our com­mu­nities.

      And I'm really concerned, because many of those that are investing in affordable housing have told me that they won't be doing it any more. And that's a con­cern, because we need housing in our com­mu­nities, in our province. There's a housing shortage across the whole province, across the whole country, and this just–we're going backwards.

      I agree, we need to protect the affordable housing that we have. We need to protect that. But to stop dev­elop­ment isn't, like–others, from others from dev­elop­ment, that's just a big mistake.

      I talked to one organi­zation that has rent-geared-to-income spaces among their market rent apartments, and it works really good. It's a great model. There was a percentage that was invested by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to cover those units, and it's been a great, great ex­per­ience for all the tenants in that building.

      And now, if they were to do that again, and the gov­ern­ment gives them 15 per cent or 20 per cent, they can't. They'll never be able to sell their building. That's an invest­ment. That's still 85 per cent of their own money they're putting into that building.

      They're told they can't sell that because they–the gov­ern­ment gave them 15 per cent invest­ment. That's controlling someone who invested 85 per cent of their own hard-earned money for their invest­ment, for their future, for their families, for the com­mu­nity, for whatever reason they're investing that money in. So we need to consider the amend­ments that were brought forward, but they were–you know, we need to consider them because 15 per cent is not very much.

      And, again, if we look at the 17 years of neglect that the NDP–the previous NDP gov­ern­ment–left Manitoba Housing in, it's unacceptable. And they want to take and blame the gov­ern­ment–the past gov­ern­ment of Conservatives–for that short little window that they were trying to fix and all the issues from 17 years of neglect. Like, how does that even make sense to me?

      So I'm just going to bring that to my–to the attention of everyone here, because 17 years of neglect for a house is a lot. And I do know, for–I know for a fact that non-profit organi­zations were–reached out and said, we want to help the situation with Manitoba Housing. We want to help people get into those homes that are being–that have been neglected for 17 years. What can we do to help?

      Well, so there was an arrangement made, and it worked really well. I will give you an example of a com­mu­nity in rural Manitoba that made an agree­ment with the gov­ern­ment, the PCs. They took over the Manitoba Housing units and they committed to keeping them affordable and rent geared to income, just like everybody else, just like all the Manitoba Housing units.

      They took them, they fixed them up. And they're being used–every single one of them–there's not one empty. There's a wait list because they're such great, great places to live, and it gives dignity to the old people who really need that home. They deserve a nice place to live. They deserve some­thing that's been invested in and fixed up.

      So I just want to bring the attention that those ones that were sold to that non-profit organi­zation are committed to not–to–rent geared to income. It wasn't like they were just sold off for profit, and I think we need to clarify that that was not the situation in 90 per cent–on all of those situations that I know of. They were sold off, but they were made with a com­mit­ment that they would stay affordable. And that's some­thing that the gov­ern­ment's not talking about.

      Whatever the situation is, we need to make sure that we give those homes as much as we can. We need to make those homes–we need to fix up those homes that we have right now in stock. They're empty; they're sitting empty right now. The current gov­ern­ment's not fixing them up. They're sitting empty. We need to make sure that we continually look at who needs those homes and put them first, give them the dignity to have a nice home to live in. And if we stagnate, if we stop invest­ment from the private sector into these affordable housing homes, how is that going to help any of our housing move forward? It's not going to.

      So I just want to speak up a little bit about that. We need to make sure we work as partners, and 15 per cent is not a part­ner­ship. That's basically saying, here, we're going to give you a little bit of money but now we get to own the whole building.

      I would never buy or invest in some­thing if I had to pay 75 or 80 per cent–5 per cent of some­thing and give–somebody give 15 per cent back and say, oh, well now, you can have owner­ship of my home. That's basically what you're doing. It doesn't make any sense to me.

      If I invested in a property and I got 15 per cent given to me from the gov­ern­ment to put affordable housing in there, I'm going to–let's say some­thing happens. I pass away. My building goes to the NDP gov­ern­ment. That just doesn't make any sense. They have control over that. Meanwhile, my hard-earned life invest­ments for my future of my family would be totally gone.

      So we need really consider what this is actually doing; we need to, like I said again, we need to protect invest­ments that are made. I agree with that. But 15 per cent is not the right number. If we want to protect, let's talk about amend­ments. Let's talk about how we can make this–

The Speaker: Order, please.

      The hour being 5 o'clock, when this matter is again before the House, the hon­our­able member will have 23 minutes remaining.

      The hour being 5 o'clock, this House is adjourned and stands adjourned until 10 a.m. tomorrow morning.


 

 


LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Wednesday, October 15, 2025

CONTENTS


Vol. 74

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Reports

Lindsey  3023

Sala  3023

Schmidt 3023

Fontaine  3023

Smith  3023

Moses 3023

Naylor 3024

Cable  3024

Moyes 3024

Simard  3024

Sandhu  3024

Kennedy  3024

Moroz  3024

Bushie  3024

Ministerial Statements

Latin American Heritage Month

Kennedy  3024

Byram   3025

Lamoureux  3025

Members' Statements

Acknowledging First Responders during Wildfires

Redhead  3026

International Day of Rural Women

Byram   3027

Tyndall Park Town Hall

Lamoureux  3027

Headingley Fitness Centre

Cook  3028

Sopilka Ukrainian Dance School

Wasyliw   3028

Oral Questions

Homeless Encampments

Khan  3029

Kinew   3029

Increase in Grocery Prices

Khan  3030

Kinew   3031

Reliability of 911 Emergency Services System

Johnson  3032

Moroz  3032

Provincial Finances

Stone  3032

Sala  3032

Temporary Detention of Intoxicated Individuals

Bereza  3033

Smith  3033

Closed Tendered Contracts

Perchotte  3033

Sandhu  3034

No Net Loss of Wetlands Policy

Lamoureux  3034

Moyes 3034

Protecting Farmland and Wetlands

Lamoureux  3034

Moyes 3034

North Dakota Dairy Farm Expansion

Lamoureux  3035

Moyes 3035

Former Premier Stefanson

Loiselle  3035

Schmidt 3035

New Markets for Manitoba Farmers

Narth  3035

Simard  3036

Highway 34 in Spruce Woods

Robbins 3036

Naylor 3036

Minimum Wage Increase

Wasyliw   3036

Sala  3037

Petitions

Location of Safe Injection Sites

Khan  3038

Rural Community Policing Services

Byram   3039

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Johnson  3039

Elm Creek School Gymnasium

Stone  3040

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Bereza  3040

Provincial Road 210

Perchotte  3041

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Schuler 3041

Removal of Federal Carbon Tax

Robbins 3042

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Wharton  3042

Provincial Trunk Highway 45

Wowchuk  3043

Nesbitt 3043

Support for Border Communities

Guenter 3044

Phoenix School

Cook  3044

Opposition to Releasing Repeat Offenders

Balcaen  3045

Ewasko  3045

Funding Crime Cost Mitigation for Small Business

Piwniuk  3046

MRI Machine for Portage Regional Health Facility

Goertzen  3046

Green Valley School Expansion

Narth  3047

Opposition to Releasing Repeat Offenders

King  3047

Morden Waste Water Project

Hiebert 3048

Grievances

Goertzen  3049

Narth  3051

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Concurrence and Third Readings

Bill 12–The Housing and Renewal Corporation Amendment Act

Smith  3053

Bereza  3053

Hiebert 3057